I'm sick of the "random" dungeon finder

[Drizzit]

I heard there is an item lvl requirment to do heroics. Is this true? Just wanted to know because i have 3 heirloom items that i am using (chest, shoulder, weapon) and know that they have an item lvl 1 one so wondering if this is going to hurt me.

[Svpernova09]

I heard there is an item lvl requirment to do heroics. Is this true? Just wanted to know because i have 3 heirloom items that i am using (chest, shoulder, weapon) and know that they have an item lvl 1 one so wondering if this is going to hurt me.

There is a gear check, it's VERY lenient though, there's a blue post on MMO-C, (but it's down atm) it pretty much says it saves the harder heroics (occ, HoR) until your in mostly blues.

[Starbuck_Jones]

Anyone know what level you have to be to do random non-heroics. My new group is an 80 paladin and 4x75 shaman and I cant do any random normals with them yet. It would be nice to pick up a pair of emblems a day so when they do hit 80 they will only be a few away from some major upgrades.

[Multibocks]

GD this stupid thing. ToC, HoS, HoS, HoL(bad for melee team), VH (easy, except I got water boss that throws my guys all over) then I got ToC again! Then HoS....

FUCK YOU BLIZZARD.

Random dungeon finder really really likes ToC and HoS for my melee team. I've spent 3 hours today just trying to get my daily done. GAWD.

edit: I would take any of the following: UK, UP, Nexus, OK, AN, DTK, Gundrak(at least its worth 3 badges), VH(no water boss prz), even the new ICC dungeons, but NOoooO it's gotta give me ToC and HoS.

[Svpernova09]

Anyone know what level you have to be to do random non-heroics. My new group is an 80 paladin and 4x75 shaman and I cant do any random normals with them yet. It would be nice to pick up a pair of emblems a day so when they do hit 80 they will only be a few away from some major upgrades.

Thats odd, I was doing randoms everyday as early as level 72.

[Fursphere]

That's because of the mixed group. 80 + 75 = no go.

Drop the 80 and you'll be able to queue up. (because the random normal for the 80 is no available to the 75s)

[Exanth]

I have a couple of full group teams at lvl 71 and lvl 75, plus my 80 team.

With my druid team I can queue because one can be a tank, one a healer, 3 dps.

Once I'm in I can then kick the tank and invite my 80 prot pally. This also works with my new lvl 27ish group. I'm wary to do it though as I don't want the levels to be different. At level 21 and 22 with the new team I couldn't get in - had to grind out a bit more xp and get them all to 22. Silly really.

On the new group I'm less than impressed with the randomness as well. I played last night for many hours constantly hitting it when the debuff ran out and all I got for 3 full levels was Gnomer.... again and again and again. I did the one RFC that came up just to reward the server for picking anything but Gnomer.

The only nice thing is the random bag loot. After about 3 random runs I've got best in spot gear for all 5 guys.

[Clone]

If I get a dungeon I dont like (Occulus, HoR, AK) I usually just kill the first boss as that means you are saved there. Ive done a lot of heroics and Im yet to come up against one I dont like after getting saved.


EDIT: I know its possible to get a dungeon you are saved to but the odds are lowered.

[Trick]

I've actually taken a step back from 5-boxing and revived my 3-box Shaman team, and have ended up enjoying the Finder. I've gone from blue lvl 78 crafted pvp gear when 3.3 released to having pretty much nothing for PvE to spend Triumph or lower badges on by Christmas.

Being able to have a random tank and healer assigned to my DPS team was simply amazing. Even more amazing was the fact that very few (less than 5% I'd say) of tanks or healers simply refused to run with me. Many were curious to see how it would work. Most were impressed with the speed which we started blowing up bosses about 1/2 way through the gearing. And a few times we ran into a player who'd tanked or healed for us before, and would then spend at least part of the run bitching about random DPS they'd been put with at other times and how much they appreciated the focus fire of a boxer.

But as for the "randomness" of the Finder, I'm actually glad that it works whatever way it does. There is now no heroic that I fear any longer. I'm more willing to do a full run of Occulus than even half of the tanks and heals I come across. I've reached the point where Insanity at the end of OK isn't a real issue. HoS is now a joke as I have the macros to spread out for Gruul-Lite; the event was never an issue for this setup, CL + Fire Nova = Win.

Maybe it really is true that what doesn't kill you (or in WoW's case, even that which DOES kill you) will only make you stronger...

[Phanes]

There is a gear check, it's VERY lenient though, there's a blue post on MMO-C, (but it's down atm) it pretty much says it saves the harder heroics (occ, HoR) until your in mostly blues.

You know if that is true maybe use the gear switcher to make everyone naked que up then gear up once you hit the dungeon. Might be a way to get easy dungeons over and over again. Mabye you can find a sweet spot that always puts you in GD or something.

BTW I have been keeping track. I have ran 33 randoms and 17 of them have been ToC.... I hate ToC....