Quote Originally Posted by Mosg2 View Post
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I just don't understand where the gap is between our experiences. I *never* run out of mana and my /click includes Consecration fairly early in the rotation. Are you using the glyph for SoC?

On the aggro issue: My Rets are not dual specced so only two of them have the full -30% aggro talent. All of my abilities for the DK are macros that hit Rune Strike so I never miss an opportunity for it... And they still pull aggro pretty regularly. /shrug

I'm not trying to sound condescending--We're just experiencing polar opposites of the spectrum and trying to figure it out is confusing
Uhm thats just it, I do use the glyph for SoC (which means their dps is lower on bosses than if they used the SoV glyph). Before I used to have mana problems, but I switched to SoC glyph so now I dont. However if I were to go back to using SoV I could save mana by not using consecration. Aggro is a different beast, my finger is always hovering over the tab button (for mobs that I am not targetting) and mouse button is always over the taunt button. It works, but its a hell of a lot more work than my paladin tank ever had to do.