need help with TOC

[Fursphere]

(All ezmode auto cleansing shaman please be kind and stfu)

You're a paladin. learn2pally and self-cleanse (and stfu).

[remanz]

I got normal on farm now. Just the jousting at the start that is annoying, the rest I clear very easily. I got through the jousting only once without losing anyone. Easy epics make up for the deaths.

I get destroyed in the jousting on heroic though /sigh, more practice I suppose.

I ran TOC 5 man heroic again after 3.3 release. It seems like they changed the jousting part on 3 champions. They hit harder and focus on wolves with low HP. It might be just me. But In 3.2, the jousting part in heroic is as easy as the one in normal. Now using the old strategy where all 5 of my guys sit at 1 spot, I have to switch like 5-6 wolves on different guys to beat them. Sometimes even bubble once I am knocked out to get to the 2nd wolf. In 3.2, I barely have to switch.

[thinus]

You're a paladin. learn2pally and self-cleanse (and stfu).

You just can't resist posting stupid shit every excuse you get, can you? I am very sorry if you can't tell the difference between just dropping a totem and completely forgetting about the debuffs and actually having to watch for the debuffs and actively cleanse/dispel it. Although it is not the most difficult skill to learn it is still a little more complicated and slightly more difficult than having to remember to drop your goddamn cleansing totem before the fight.

[Malekyth]

I am very sorry if you can't tell the difference between just dropping a totem and completely forgetting about the debuffs and actually having to watch for the debuffs and actively cleanse/dispel it.

You can't say "stfu" and not expect a snarky comment -- which I'd like to think I'd have gotten to if Fur hadn't -- but I still know what you mean. Now I have a shaman healer and the world of difference is very clear. Shamans are awesome because they're so automatic. They're the path of least resistance for boxing, but that does make it a bit harder for the rest of us (er, I guess I'm no longer "the rest of us", at least on my new group) to find what we need.

[Fursphere]

You just can't resist posting stupid shit every excuse you get, can you? I am very sorry if you can't tell the difference between just dropping a totem and completely forgetting about the debuffs and actually having to watch for the debuffs and actively cleanse/dispel it. Although it is not the most difficult skill to learn it is still a little more complicated and slightly more difficult than having to remember to drop your goddamn cleansing totem before the fight.

Since you seem to be incapable of learning even a basic Pally tanking survival macro, I shall provide it for you, free of charge. (you can also enable auto-self cast and just skip the macro - your choice)

/cast [target=player] cleanse

I'll even help you with your keybinds, as you appear to be in need.

I assign this to my 1 key, which also happens to be my "quick heal tank" key on my healer (do you need that macro too?). So as I'm manually rolling HoTs on my tank as needed, my tank is also cleansing the bad things off himself. There is an addon available called decursive - its been around since the lvl 60 days. It makes a really loud "gong" style noise when something is placed on a party member that is removeable. It also provides a visual reminder as well.

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-a...decursive.aspx (there, a quick link to the addon even)

So if you'd like to QQ moar, be my guest. But seriously, totems are far from needed to keep the tank cleaned off when you're a Paladin tank. The long pulse between totem ticks is long even for some posions and diseases to kill off party members as well - so if you're soley relying on totems, you're going to have a lot of big repair bills. But you've got Shaman, you should know this/ And if you're too damn stubborn to use a simple addon like decursive to assist with things like removable debuffs - thats not my problem, thats yours.

[thinus]

Blah blah blah. You keep missing the point. I can cleanse and zomg, I got a priest so I dispel as well. I am not saying it is difficult just that it is more difficult than just dropping a totem and forgetting about it. Arguing against this is just stupid. But go right ahead.

[Fursphere]

You keep missing the point. I can cleanse

Your argument and tone alone sugggest your CAN'T do this, hence the reason you're bitching about it and at the same time making rude remaks to Shaman players.

I got a priest so I dispel as well.

learn2priest then? Roll abolish disease on the tank? thats damn near the same as dropping a totem. You could even write a castsequence macro to continusouly roll abolish disease on the tank, making it effectively identical to having a Shaman totem. (so it IS that easy, even if you want to argue otherwise)

Or you can sit there with your nose in the air talking shit and somehow thinking you're superiour to other players because your don't play a Shaman.

Again, your choice.

[Bigfish]

I always found self cleansing to be a bit of a hassle with 9-6-9 going on. Priest with Abolish Disease does make the diseases easy to handle. I feel sorry for anyone who goes in to ToC without at least something to cleanse diseases though.

[thinus]

God you are still trying to teach me how to play and you think I am the one acting superior. Fuck off.

[Fursphere]

God you are still trying to teach me how to play and you think I am the one acting superior. Fuck off.

As a Shaman player myself, I took your previous comments as an insulting (as anyone should). I am merely showing you how hypocritical your comments are now that I realize you have a priest in your group (they were slightly hypocritical to begin with with a Pally tank).