destro macros once again

[Niley]

Hello,
Ive recently done some more testing and it seems like my destro lock dps dropped by quite a bit, I had to re write some of my macros, and at the moment it looks like this:

/assist focus
/use 13
/use 14
/click ActionButton7
/click ActionButton8
/click ActionButton9
/click ActionButton10
/click ActionButton11
/click ActionButton12


click 1
/castsequence reset=combat/target Curse of the Elements,null

click 2(i usually dont use this one, just manually do life tap)
/castsequence reset=combat Life tap,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

click 3
/castsequence reset=combat/target Immolate,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

click4
/castsequence reset=combat Chaos Bolt,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

click 5
/castsequence reset=combat Conflagrate,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

click 6
/cast incinerate

She used to be my 1st or 2nd dps, but she seems to fall way behind right now, even thought lock is my 2nd best geared dps.
Does anyone have any suggestions? Did I make a mistake in making one of those macros?
This is results from few minutes of dummy testing, just hitting one target(that's why Im lamost on top of the dummy, otherwise cl will hit all 3), as you can see lock is dead last It gets worse in some heroics, she is half damage of my last shaman at times.






edit. Fixed spelling mistakes.

[Fursphere]

Looks very similar to mine.

I use
CoE
Immolate
Conflag
Chaos
Inncinerate


The very first thing in my macro is this though:

/castsequence reset=combat ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,(almost 255 maxed),,,,,,,,,,,,,life tap

Its an emergency life tap if I forget to monitor it... if the warlock runs outa mana, it'll life tap and keep her going.

Is your Imp on passive? If he's not attacking, its going to screw up your DPS. And armor? are you putting armor on? (the right one?).

Something I noticed too .. at 78, Destro and Afflication (post 3.3) are very similar in DPS - so I'm wondering which one is going to take off with the gear.

EDIT:

Seriously dude? You're bitching about almost 7000 DPS?

[Niley]

Looks very similar to mine.

I use
CoE
Immolate
Conflag
Chaos
Inncinerate


The very first thing in my macro is this though:

/castsequence reset=combat ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,(almost 255 maxed),,,,,,,,,,,,,life tap

Its an emergency life tap if I forget to monitor it... if the warlock runs outa mana, it'll life tap and keep her going.

Is your Imp on passive? If he's not attacking, its going to screw up your DPS. And armor? are you putting armor on? (the right one?).

Something I noticed too .. at 78, Destro and Afflication (post 3.3) are very similar in DPS - so I'm wondering which one is going to take off with the gear.

EDIT:

Seriously dude? You're bitching about almost 7000 DPS?

yes i just double checked the armor, and while i do mess up my imp sometimes, most of the time its attacking.
Fur, Im not bitching about 7k dps, Im asking if there is anything i can change, lock is more geared than my two shamans, yet after 2 minutes of dps she is still doing less damage(as a pure dps class too!)
Just like i said in my first post, dummy dps isnt ideal by far, in heroics/raids shes much lower.

[Fat Tire]

3.3 Conflag nerf?

[Fursphere]

Side note: Where are you in that screenshot? Don't recognize the location.

3.3 Conflag nerf?

3.3

- Destruction
Conflagrate: Redesigned. This talent now consumes an Immolate or
Shadowflame effect on the enemy target to instantly deal damage
equal to 9 seconds of Immolate or 8 seconds of Shadowflame, and
causes additional damage over 3 seconds equal to 3 seconds of
Immolate or 2 seconds of Shadowflame. In addition, the periodic
damage of Conflagrate is capable of critically striking the
afflicted target.

3.2 (and before)

Conflagrate: Consumes an Immolate or Shadowflame effect on the enemy target to instantly deal damage equal to 12 sec of your Immolate or 8 sec of your Shadowflame.

There is some noise about the Immolate DoT ticks being able to crit / not crit based on pre-or-post conflag now? So perhaps its a timing issue? I'll have to do more research honestly. Its way confusing.

What glyphs are you using Niley? There is some noise about that as well.

[Fursphere]

Ok. Reasearch hAs turned up a lot of claims of seriously conflag crit damage nerfage. Roughly 50% less dmg from crits. ( 14k to 7k ).

Per some simulation craft results it seems it's possible to get slightly more DPS from affliction now so that may be a way to get up to the top. Although if the bulk of your damage was coming from conflag crits - it may be something your just going to have to live with.

Making a clean post on the official forums asking why a hybrid class is out dpsing a pure dps class might get some attention. But it might get shaman nerfed too. Lol

[Fursphere]

http://elitistjerks.com/f80/t38033-m...2/#post1497654

Specifically:

Recap on Current Situation:

Currently have 3/14/54 spec (took soul link instead of shadowfury out of personal preference since survivability in ICC is a bitch)
Using major glyphs Life Tap, Conflagrate, and Incinerate. (minor glyphs: glyph of souls, unending breath, drains soul)
And my rotation is:

Immo-CB-Conflag-Incinerate*5 (life tap)-Conlfag-Immo-CB-Incinerate*3 (life tap)-Conflag-Incinerate*4 (life tap).... repeat

I'm going to give this a go....

[Niley]

Fuuuur!
I <3 You, that must be it!
I cant explain going from 8-9k to 6-7, oh well :/
I think i might just box as destro and raid as affliction....affliction is more fun anyway
Your rotation above is exactly what i use when raiding except my life tap placement is a tad different.

[Fursphere]

hehe, glad I could help. here is my question though:

3.3
Conflagrate: Redesigned. This talent now consumes an Immolate or
Shadowflame effect on the enemy target to instantly deal damage
equal to 9 seconds of Immolate or 8 seconds of Shadowflame, and
causes additional damage over 3 seconds equal to 3 seconds of
Immolate or 2 seconds of Shadowflame. In addition, the periodic
damage of Conflagrate is capable of critically striking the
afflicted target.

Specifically:

...and causes additional damage over 3 seconds equal to 3 seconds of Immolate

If you're glyphed for Conflag (and you should be), how does this work? The extra 3 seconds.. does it make a new DoT on the target to show this extra 3 seconds? Does it overwrite the exsiting immolation DoT thats already there with a new 3 second DoT? This could be a serious problem in timing.

I don't have time to test it right now - but what I want to know is after you conflag (glyphed), what happens to immolate, and does it create a new post-conflag DoT?

[Niley]

this has nothing to do with this, but.....i was just making heroic HoR video and noticed while watching it that my imp was on passive again x.x