Gold from farming heroics?

[Shodokan]

Why are we always think the mats we get from farming are auto-sells. I post my enchanting mats onto AH. I get under cut constantly. Took me days to sell a few shards, if I am not there to camp the AH. (just post and leave, come back the next day). Same thing with the gems I transmuted. The glyph I made. If I don't watch them, they are not sold. So I don't buy the 1k gold per hour from heroics theory.

Takes time to trade, and takes luck to sell.

It's best to save your mats and sell in bulk, find bulk buyers or use the mats yourself on enchanting scrolls. Certain things do require time to sell but there are many many things that do not. It also depends on WHEN you post the materials. If you post them during prime time then of course you are going to be undercut. It's that amount WORTH per hour, it does not mean instant sales. Nothing in this game instasells and you can get undercut on anything no matter what the market is. This is something that could be brought up about any type of farming unless it is sales to NPC.

[Stav]

I thought I would mention that disenchanting materials are based on the item type; armor or weapon. Armor will more often DE into dust (75% of the time) where weapons will DE into essence (75% of the time). Given how poor the material market has become on my server (actual sales, vs. listed price) I've found it's often equally profitable just to vendor the greens.

I have to say I must be doing something horribly wrong because I'm almost to the currently attainable, non-raider gear cap and average only 2 heroics an hour, unless I get a lucky string of the fast ones (UK, DtK, VH). For the most part, unless you're consistently getting the harder heroics just doing the random dungeon finder should cover the bulk of your repair / wipe costs. A daily or 2 over 5 accounts should cover the remainder if needed. Depending on your server another option if you can manage a daily random a day is to burn some of your frost emblems for Primodrial Saronite, again it's server dependent but they should still fetch a pretty hefty sum.

[Shodokan]

I thought I would mention that disenchanting materials are based on the item type; armor or weapon. Armor will more often DE into dust (75% of the time) where weapons will DE into essence (75% of the time). Given how poor the material market has become on my server (actual sales, vs. listed price) I've found it's often equally profitable just to vendor the greens.

I have to say I must be doing something horribly wrong because I'm almost to the currently attainable, non-raider gear cap and average only 2 heroics an hour, unless I get a lucky string of the fast ones (UK, DtK, VH). For the most part, unless you're consistently getting the harder heroics just doing the random dungeon finder should cover the bulk of your repair / wipe costs. A daily or 2 over 5 accounts should cover the remainder if needed. Depending on your server another option if you can manage a daily random a day is to burn some of your frost emblems for Primodrial Saronite, again it's server dependent but they should still fetch a pretty hefty sum.

This takes about 1 week to acquire enough badges unless you are talking about the 10 you get from the quests for unlocking the new instances etc. They do sell for 2-5k per server so if you manage to get 5 of them it could fetch a good profit.

two heroics per hour isn't exactly "slow" per say... it all depends on your team makeup. But i've had experiences in CoT with a LARGE margin of time etc. Keep in mind this is with pug groups and NOT boxing. This was also pre t9 dps as well where shaman in t9 should be able to pull 5k easy... and if you have 4 dps pulling 5k each and are not able to down things VERY quickly then there is something incredibly wrong. But not everyone uses shaman.


Edit: back to the point of undercutting. Keep a list of people who undercut you, and give them a marginal amount of materials for about 80% of the price... they will almost always take the deals and resell. This is because most people who spend their time undercutting others are ones who have a lot of gold themselves and just want quick turnaround.

[Stav]

I have 2 T9 geared shaman's in my 5 man group and on trash they are capping around 4k. Granted I still need to tweak their click macro's and one of them just got the Quel'Delar mace but I doubt that's going to make up your theorized missing 1k.

Anyways I've gone astray from the original post.

The point I'm trying to make is that it sounds like this is Crowdx's first 5 man team and as such we've gotten a bit off point by suggesting methods to maximize gold with a fully geared team. I'm sure there are other 5-boxers who would agree that gearing up your first team is a totally different experience then gearing up subsequent teams. Ideally as long as you're breaking even on repairs at the end of the run you've done well.

Crowdx you did mention that you found 2 BoE weapons that you were thinking of saving for your rogue. One thing you might want to consider, depending which account your rogue is on is that once you get your first team geared up you could sub your rogue into a dps slot and get them "free" upgrades from the various heroics. Essentially taking advantage of the gold now and getting the rogue weapons through alternative means later. I speak from experience after stashing untold amounts of gear into the guild bank, only to have it replaced quickly from heroic / emblem upgrades.

[Ualaa]

http://www.wowwiki.com/Disenchanting_tables

[Iceorbz]

Why are we always think the mats we get from farming are auto-sells. I post my enchanting mats onto AH. I get under cut constantly. Took me days to sell a few shards, if I am not there to camp the AH. (just post and leave, come back the next day). Same thing with the gems I transmuted. The glyph I made. If I don't watch them, they are not sold. So I don't buy the 1k gold per hour from heroics theory.

Takes time to trade, and takes luck to sell.

I never believe this ah crap :P gotta remember your pricing@ your own price or getting undercut. If you post more then 2-3 of something its prolly not going to sell before someone else can put one up under at least your last auction.

[Raskaz]

I am bascially making hardly money off the ah these days since like most stated due to the vast supply you get so often undercut it's not even funny and most materials are so dead cheap that I rather stock them for the time being.

I bought a few epic recipes which droped down in prices since 3.3 and hope to making some money out of them.

[gitcho]

I never believe this ah crap :P gotta remember your pricing@ your own price or getting undercut. If you post more then 2-3 of something its prolly not going to sell before someone else can put one up under at least your last auction.

/agree

Once gear saturated you "should" be able to make about 1.5k an hour or more from heroics.

/showme

[Gadzooks]

Why are we always think the mats we get from farming are auto-sells. I post my enchanting mats onto AH. I get under cut constantly. Took me days to sell a few shards, if I am not there to camp the AH. (just post and leave, come back the next day). Same thing with the gems I transmuted. The glyph I made. If I don't watch them, they are not sold. So I don't buy the 1k gold per hour from heroics theory.

Takes time to trade, and takes luck to sell.

VERY dependant on your server - enchanting mats go quick on mine, but dream shards, good luck. I sold into an idiot trying to corner the market, but last I looked, they were headed for the vendor price, so I have a couple of stacks. Orbs, both kind, have been falling, but slowly - I think they're selling into the mass of TOC patterns like Merlin's Robe and Razorplate that are all over our AH right now. Lots of people are looking in trade for these patterns to get them made, so I think that's what's going on with the orb market.

BC enchanting mats, however, are a GOLDMINE. Every enchanter who's leveling needs them, and some pre-Wrath enchants still sell, and sell lots. Mongoose goes for 400 gold on my server (and that's less than the mats will sell for), and I just got Steelweave from Heroic Magister's Terrace (I'm sightseeing with my team), and it *sells*. You should be able to clear 5 BC heroics in no time, and get an average of 4-5 abyss crystals, 5 primal nethers, stacks of large prismatic shards, and stacks of dust and eternals - and the occasional pre-Wrath Darkmoon cards (that sell), BoE weapons and gear, the occasional world Epic drop, and if you farm Heroic Sekketh and Magisters, you can get the rare mounts. One hour a day is getting me 500g for everything, at least - more if I make enchanting scrolls from the dust and shards. Mongoose takes a LOT of abyss crystals and shards, but they're ridiculously easy to get. On full Kara run should get you stacks of everything, and it's an easy run with 5 80s - I had a little trouble with Snow White, but everything else was dead easy.

Anchuidon is a farm fest at 80. You can run all 4 in no time, then run labs again, in under an hour. Tempest keep the same, if you have the keys - and getting the key is maybe 3 full runs of mech and bot to get to honored? My Mage can Arcane Explode through most of it. The only dicey moment I had - and a funny one, was I accidently pulled about 20 mobs in Heroic Magister's at low mana on everyone, and my mage got smooshed. But I killed them all!

Throw a movie on, and farm BC dungeons for an hour, then do dailies for an hour- you'll have plenty of money.

If you have a JCer, miner, and alchemist, make epic gems every day. It's guaranteed income right now. Mine sell within 5 minutes of being posted, this last week. Pots and flasks are big money as well, in quantity.

You have to look at the market. There's a flood of wrath enchanting mats on the market, especially dream shards, from the new roll mechanic. enctanted scrolls are more rare. There's a flood of saronite and titanium on the market, along with orbs. Forget that market, you'll never catch up. Concentrate on pre-Wrath - if you mine, Thorium and Mithril, and to some extent BC ores, are selling for more than cobalt and saronite - thorium goes over 100g a stack easily - and the last time I went to get some in Sith and elsewhere, for the first time I saw no bots.

Feed the profession powerlevelers. It's easy money - one hour of work is all you need.

[Kicksome]

Speaking from actual, current, heroic multiboxing experience it's tough to make gold right now. Enchanting mats sell for almost nothing, aside from greater cosmics. You'll get enough from trash drops to pay your repair bills, and you'll get some badges as well. I think I net about 20g each toon per heroic, and maybe another 50g total in greens that I can sell or DE. So a net total of 100g - 150g for the group. If you run every heroic perfectly with no wipes, maybe you can make more. Since I usually don't sell the enchanting mats, I think I walk out of heroics with basically the 13g or whatever quest reward.

I have t9 geared DK and Shamans, and in heroics I'm lucky to pull 3K dps on trash, and 3.5 - 4K with heroism on a boss.