Best battleground for multiboxing (several teams)

[Fuzzyboy]

Just looked over some info on PvP changes in cataclysm (http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/w...on-blue-posts/), which I'm really looking forward to.

Anyway, the idea of advancing in raiding from BG's will mean some very positive changes to the PvP systems, both for boxers and non-boxers I think.

Anyway, my question is this. If several multiboxers group up, what battleground would be better (i.e. more suited for multiboxing)? I'm thinking AB, since it's fairly easy to get 3/4 boxers together and make a full premade. 3/4 teams also seem to work well for split-strategies?

[Kromtor]

AB would be good, Eye of the Storm would be good. I think the others will be a nightmare for boxers.

[heyaz]

AB has been one of the worst for me since I started multiboxing. No one will defend a node (except you), everyone will follow you, and without your team they will fail to take any other nodes. So you leave your node, and one of 7 stealthers on the other teams takes it. I think I win more WSG than AB beleive it or not.

Eots, Strand have been crazy good for me. I win almost all of those

[Fuzzyboy]

AB has been one of the worst for me since I started multiboxing. No one will defend a node (except you), everyone will follow you, and without your team they will fail to take any other nodes. So you leave your node, and one of 7 stealthers on the other teams takes it. I think I win more WSG than AB beleive it or not.

Eots, Strand have been crazy good for me. I win almost all of those

I think you're missing my point - although I suppose it was a bit vague. Anyway, my question was regarding what BG would be better to grind for rating, assuming your side consisted only of boxers. Like in the case of AB, me + 2/3 other boxers

[heyaz]

Consisting only of boxers? That sounds bad in every battleground. I think it'd be best with 1-2 boxers at the most, the rest individual players.

[Fuzzyboy]

Consisting only of boxers? That sounds bad in every battleground. I think it'd be best with 1-2 boxers at the most, the rest individual players.

From that perspective, one could claim that boxing is a bad idea because 5 good individual players will always be better than one boxer and thus, it would be true for any battleground and arenas, that the less boxers the better the result, if the alternative is good individual players. That wasn't what I was asking though :-) Rather I was simply asking for opinions of the optimal BG _given_ the fact that the players on one side is boxers, rather that if boxing battlegrounds would be a good idea (not that input in that regard is unappreciated)

[heyaz]

From that perspective, one could claim that boxing is a bad idea because 5 good individual players will always be better than one boxer and thus, it would be true for any battleground and arenas, that the less boxers the better the result, if the alternative is good individual players. That wasn't what I was asking though :-) Rather I was simply asking for opinions of the optimal BG _given_ the fact that the players on one side is boxers, rather that if boxing battlegrounds would be a good idea (not that input in that regard is unappreciated)

And my point was that I don't think any of them would work particularly well as battlegrounds are not a small arena but large open areas with a lot of different positions. I can't see it working in WSG, AB, Strand, AV, or Isle. Maybe EOTS but I really doubt it since you'd be facing other competitive teams who would easily take advantage of each boxer only being in one place.

[Fuzzyboy]

And my point was that I don't think any of them would work particularly well as battlegrounds are not a small arena but large open areas with a lot of different positions. I can't see it working in WSG, AB, Strand, AV, or Isle. Maybe EOTS but I really doubt it since you'd be facing other competitive teams who would easily take advantage of each boxer only being in one place.

That's great, but I think you're missing my point. I realize that boxers, be it in BG, arena or PvE is less capable than individual players. I also get your point that boxing BG's may even be more difficult than boxing arenas. To some extent I agree, but that's not what I'm asking. You're talking about why boxing is difficult in battlegrounds - I'm talking about which battleground complements boxing the best - and worst (or in your terms, which BG would suck the least and most ;-)).

I'm only guessing here, but obviously the skill level in rated BG's will be higher than current BG's. I'm also guessing that it'll be lower than current arenas, since people can and will go in uncoordinated in order to try and score easy gear (it's a safe bet since you'll be unable to actually lose rating from BG's). The success of boxing BG's will depend heavily on the opposite sides ability to exploit the fact that we're boxing. At high ratings, this is a given, which naturally caps our top possible rating, just as it's the case in arenas today. Still, I think BG will open up some new options in addition to what we see in arenas today. New classes will be viable, support classes will be more in focus, 2-, 3-boxing might be good options, stuff like that.

Anyway, I'm rambling here. To adress your point, I think you're right in your assumption that we'll be facing some challenges we haven't faced before. Some of those may make PvP-boxing even more difficult, but the new type of system will also make PvP more casual than it is today, which allows us a bit more breathing room as boxers. Or maybe not, guess we won't know for sure until Cata comes

[Kromtor]

*facepalm*

[Fuzzyboy]

*facepalm*

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