The simultaneous sending of keystrokes is considered illegal in EQ2...

[Dooz]

I think I would be somewhat worried / paranoid if I MB'd EQ. That's pretty shaky ground to be playing on.

[Velassra]

I think I would be somewhat worried / paranoid if I MB'd EQ. That's pretty shaky ground to be playing on.

I'd almost bet their legal department told them not to change the policy and say it's always been like that with the exptactation that I really don't know what was in someone elses support ticket and in actuality, I won't have access to the other person's ticket no matter what it says anyhow. It just seems to me SOE is intent on lying about the policy (interpretation of the polcy) change.

This seems to me completely dishonest. I was very angry when SOE significantly nerfed pet groups etc in EQOA, enough so I cancelled my accounts there and moved to WoW. But that was a different situation so I gave them another chance w/ EQ2. At least when Blizzard makes policy adjustments they tell you that they did w/ basically "our game, our rules" attitude.

I was considering EQ1 for a multibox group b/c I've really never played it and it's been around forever (and probably has years left on it). I wonder if the policy has extended to EQ1....everything I heard there is everyone is a multiboxer. A policy change like this would kill it.

Anyway, I'm disappointed w/ their responses, it seems sleazy and will make me very unlikely to ever deal w/ a SOE product ever again.

[mesmerise]

sigh i cant still believe what i read....i just checked dual boxing today and see this moved thread, not sure what i am going to do, i really like boxing in EQ2 and i juste like EQ2, i dont think i would go to another game, i dont see a possible return in EQ for me now, 2 years away is too much But maybe i just need to wait for ban or something and still play, i am enough lucky to be in a low population server (eurpean) and i rarely see any people in add-on before ROK/TOS, this will be different at 80 i guess....and then i will be reported maybe.

[TheFailTrain]

I just realized that I have 5 active EQ2 accounts I wasn't playing. In light of this thread I will be canceling them as well.

[Targ]

When you call SOE to ask for a refund you should ask for all money paid from when you started multi-boxing. You relied on their explanation of the rule at that time to make your purchase decision, as they have changed their interpretation of the rule you are entitled to all of your purchases refunded. This would include all expansion packs, all subscription fee's the whole enchilada.

Of course they will refuse but then file a complaint with your states Attorney Generals Office of Consumer Protection. Be sure to let SOE know that is what you intend to do this.

That should get SOE's legal department churning and burning up some money. The more it is likely to cost them, the more likely they will change their minds.

[Velassra]

When you call SOE to ask for a refund you should ask for all money paid from when you started multi-boxing. You relied on their explanation of the rule at that time to make your purchase decision, as they have changed their interpretation of the rule you are entitled to all of your purchases refunded. This would include all expansion packs, all subscription fee's the whole enchilada.

Of course they will refuse but then file a complaint with your states Attorney Generals Office of Consumer Protection. Be sure to let SOE know that is what you intend to do this.

That should get SOE's legal department churning and burning up some money. The more it is likely to cost them, the more likely they will change their minds.

Lol, it'll cost them more to talk w/ their lawyer, than the refund lol.

[Gadzooks]

I'd almost bet their legal department told them not to change the policy and say it's always been like that with the exptactation that I really don't know what was in someone elses support ticket and in actuality, I won't have access to the other person's ticket no matter what it says anyhow. It just seems to me SOE is intent on lying about the policy (interpretation of the polcy) change.

This seems to me completely dishonest. I was very angry when SOE significantly nerfed pet groups etc in EQOA, enough so I cancelled my accounts there and moved to WoW. But that was a different situation so I gave them another chance w/ EQ2. At least when Blizzard makes policy adjustments they tell you that they did w/ basically "our game, our rules" attitude.

I was considering EQ1 for a multibox group b/c I've really never played it and it's been around forever (and probably has years left on it). I wonder if the policy has extended to EQ1....everything I heard there is everyone is a multiboxer. A policy change like this would kill it.

Anyway, I'm disappointed w/ their responses, it seems sleazy and will make me very unlikely to ever deal w/ a SOE product ever again.

Anything associated with Sony tends to follow this pattern, I stopped buying anything Sony after the MiniDisc debacle, and their rootkitting, and a nasty, played out effort to get them to honor their warranty on a piece of pricey stereo equipment that was bad out of the box (and involved Circuit City, who could have just swapped me a new one, but insisted I had to deal with Sony because I didn't buy their extended warranty - never spent a dime at CC ever again, either). I simply do not trust Sony, and I just spend my money on other companies.

I am in the market for an eBook reader, and I refuse to even consider Sony's. I have zero interest in playing any of their games, old or new. Blizz has issues, but looking at other game forums? We have it pretty good with Blizzard.

[thinus]

I have zero interest in playing any of their games, old or new. Blizz has issues, but looking at other game forums? We have it pretty good with Blizzard.

Amen. I won't say I have zero interest but I do shake my head when I read of or experience some of the decisions made by the dev teams in other games.

[Captive2]

I think it may be time to just lay low and play the game – and stop bringing up this issue and keeping it at the top of every GM’s radar screen. After all, SOE didn’t come out with a front-page article on their website about how they’re going to crack down on automation, and then immediately start banning people for doing it. They haven’t tangibly done anything differently – they’ve just said things in forums and emails. Actions speak louder than words.

[Tonuss]

I've received a sort of calming PM back from Kiara, only calming in the way I choose to interpret it. I'll not bother posting my original PM, as it is rather lengthy, but you can gather the jist of it from the response:

I read it as "stay out of our crosshairs, and you can multibox all you want." Personally, I don't like to trust a company not to use those grey areas, especially if I'm about to spend $xxx on expansion packs.

I never played EQ2, after going from EQ to WOW I was in no hurry to give SOE another nickel of my money. This doesn't change that.