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    The weird thing is that there has been no policy change. It would be interesting to know why these GM's are interpreting their policies differently. (And whether it is official or just some misinformed GM's)

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    I recieved a response to my PM to Rothgar where he basically asked me if he understood my questions, i responded that he did and didnt hear from him again, but shortly after Kiara posted in that thread on the official boards.

    I figured since i have nothing better to do, and Rothgar being pretty cool and down to earth, id write up some of the good points in this thread and send him a letter. Im sure he'll read it, and just hope he'll point out to whoever makes the decisions (if any were even made lol) that they should, if not allow this, at least either give us a clearer response on how to do things.
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  3. #53

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    Quote Originally Posted by KvdM View Post
    The weird thing is that there has been no policy change. It would be interesting to know why these GM's are interpreting their policies differently. (And whether it is official or just some misinformed GM's)
    Well I would have to disagree there has been a policy change. The TOS is still grey on issue,but SOE's policy on Multi-boxing is not.

    Kiara the Everquest2 Community manager posted:
    So, multiboxing if you control all 6 characters signally and you have to type a command for all 6 characters separately is ok. Multi-boxing with the use of hardware OR software which allows you to control 6 characters with 1 command is not ok and considered in violation of the spirit of the game as it gives the player(s) an advantage over other players.
    I have a PM from her predecessor that indicated the opposite position.

    Sure looks like a policy change to me.

  4. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inactive View Post
    I recieved a response to my PM to Rothgar where he basically asked me if he understood my questions, i responded that he did and didnt hear from him again, but shortly after Kiara posted in that thread on the official boards.

    I figured since i have nothing better to do, and Rothgar being pretty cool and down to earth, id write up some of the good points in this thread and send him a letter. Im sure he'll read it, and just hope he'll point out to whoever makes the decisions (if any were even made lol) that they should, if not allow this, at least either give us a clearer response on how to do things.

    For those interested:
    That to me reads between the lines like, "Give me what I want or I'm taking my ball(money) and going home."

    I'm not liking the official stance, but the thing I want acknowledged is it's not fair to judge what one person/account can do vs what a multiboxer can do, but what a group of the same number of accounts can do vs what a multiboxer can do. Making that comparison we're at a decided disadvantage (which is of our own choosing), we're certainly not screwing the game or other players.

    I got a tell from someone in game last night asking if I was multiboxing. I said yes, after cringing a few minutes wondering if I was gonna get the boot. He thought it was cool and we laughed about how badly things go on certain mobs (I then took on Commander Keg and we laughed as my party got flung around like so many bowling pins.)

    There's nothing I can do that 6 individuals paying for the same accounts couldn't. There's plenty 6 individuals can do that I can't. Where's the unfair advantage?

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    I guess I'm even more glad that I cancelled my accounts to try out Melee Multiboxing in WoW, but a little disappointed that all my efforts in EQ2 are for naught.

    I'm a little stressed that the company would do this. The response came too soon to have been discussed appropriately behind the scenes. When it comes down to decisions regarding money loss, no intelligent company would make these decisions on a whim. This money matter isn't someone threatening to cancel their account as a bluff to get what they want, it is several players cancelling multiple accounts due to a vague contract written in lawyer language being interpreted differently, causing them to be unable to continue playing.

    I think you should all ask for a refund, as previously you have been told your playstyle was acceptable, and (without breaking the agreement prior) you are now in violation of a different interpretation of the same agreement. I read a linked section of the agreement (Section 6) in regards to this.

    While the time dwindles away at work, I may give SOE a call, as I'm a concerned citizen.
    "For God's sake, don't stand there at 30 yards trying to cast a spell, he will melt your face period."

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    Lokked, just realize that when calling CS you will get a rule-slave that wont be able to do anything but tell you that multiboxing is fine as long as you dont clone keys and that you have to either alt+tab or use 6 keyboards (lol right?). You might persuade him to put on his superviser, ie. a senior GM on the line to tell you the same thing.
    But who knows you may have better luck than i did and persuade them to put on someone who will listen to your feedback.

  7. #57

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milque View Post
    That to me reads between the lines like, "Give me what I want or I'm taking my ball(money) and going home."
    Sure does and thats what the vast majorities of MBs in EQ2 will do. At least the ones playing more than 2 accounts. Its worth pointing out that this most likely wasnt taken into consideration. They wouldnt make this decition if they knew what loss they'd take. There are alot of MBs in EQ2, just yesterday i met two at KP docks, and today one so far.

    Quote Originally Posted by Milque View Post
    Where's the unfair advantage?
    Id like an answer to that as well. Sure if its PvP and i run around low level zones with a twinked group of 6 solo ganking everyone trying to do anything, i could see this being extremly annoying. But really, i agree the definition is vague and pointless.

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    These CM responses show that even a mouth-breather anti-boxer similar to those that inhabit the general forums can make into a position of responsibility. :P
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  9. #59

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    Feldon over at EQ2Wire has been kind enough to write a blog entry regarding this current issue - but it looks like a done deal ppls

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    May as well delete my EQ2 install. SOE always finds a way to screw up a good thing.
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