QFT.

Its so late in the rating that even lower teams are on equal gear levels as us (we've been to 1870 - full relentless except helm and shoulders now). Its taken forever to get up - usually our queues amount to 1700 rated teams that give 4 points and 2100+ teams that take 10 points so we gain 3-4 points, then lose 10 with the overall net result being no movement or down (we're 100points down currently).

We had a game a few days ago against a 2200 rated team on Lordaron - my healer and I had to hang back at the starting area why they all humped the tomb, waiting for them to make a mistake - their shaman kept getting close and as soon as we got a root off we blew our flame/lava/pyro to kill him (barely got him too) then moved up to camp his corpse. The rest of the game went on for 22 minutes and they got a res off and we restarted - got the shaman again with the same trick, then their warrior disconnected and they pillar humped.

We did win, but 22 minutes for 22 points isn't exactly effecient, but that's what everything amount to. Even with instants the target needs to be in the open for at least 2 seconds for us to kill (for all 4 to go off) - so many times on 1-3 lava burst go off before they LOS.

I can't wait for rated battlegrounds because LOS is not nearly as much of an issue as it is in areana.



Quote Originally Posted by heyaz View Post
skill, tactics over 2k? yeah right, they control you so well, and there's so much GCD in play at that point.. it's all about whether you get off all 4 instant nukes, they hit, and none of your shaman get CC'd half way through, and in many cases you need the CL+FS to finish anyone off - and by that time a holy shcok, penance, swiftmend, nature's swiftness, etc. has already gone off and your target is as full health... Everyone at high ratings knows you're using a focus target, and since everyone uses healbot (or equivalent) that and hard switching just doesn't guarantee you a kill (especially since full relentless targets can survive 4x FS + LVB + 4x pyro rocket, and then you're out of instants).

Wait till you see my video of how absurd the matches look. You can't even tell what the hell is going on,there's so much crap flying around the screen, so much LoS, so much aoe, and such precise cc rotations that some matches you couldn't even win if you were somehow already in full season 8 gear. We had strategies that worked on the way up to 2k, and we could discuss tactics against certain comps, adjust our approach, and win. Now, we've tried everything and the 2200-2400 teams, well you might beat them once then they'll come up with a counter that you really can't do anything about - you just wait for them to make a serious mistake, while not making a single error yourself. And then they just turn it into a 30 minute rez fest and wear you down - ele shaman never get mana back, while every other class can (or doesn't use mana).

Of course I'm talking specifically about multiboxing. Two teams with 10 separate players, well that's much different.