Prot Pally pvp?

[Kromtor]

prot is awesome, the only reason i dont do it is due to lack of healing from instant FoL and divine storm

[olsondw]

Here is something I found at Elitist Jerks that talk about Prot Pally in PVP:

Here is the link to give credit to the original post:
http://elitistjerks.com/f38/t11564-p...vp_thread/p58/

Here the post:
If you experienced a huge drop in DPS compared to ret, you are not playing it right. I LOL at you if you are playing a Prot spec PVP paladin wearing tank gear. A PVP prot spec DPS Paladin should be wearing entirely ret gear, and maybe a few high iLevel BV tank pieces thrown in to get your block value up. You should find the best Str ret PVE items you can get your hands on, 2 Piece T9 is essential, a good slow 1 hander and the best shield you can find. Any relentless pieces you can get are a bonus, but not really necessary if it's too much of a nerf over a nice 245 ilvl Str piece.

You also shouldn't be using might or Righteousness. Sanctuary increases your strength by 10% (and thus your BV) and provides valuable damage reduction and mana return when you are attacked. SoV is your seal of choice and you should be using the SoV libram. With a 5 stack on a healer it will tick between 1100-1500, putting a lot of stress on them to keep both themselves and their dps up. Save your stun and avenger's shield for when your opponent gets to 50%. AS is also useful for catching an escaping druid or shammy healer.

You should shoot for 4500+ ap unbuffed, 1800-2000 BV and 30% crit. The burst potential of a good PvP prot paladin is huge, and usually underestimated by your opponents. Shield of Righteousness can crit for 7k+, Hammer for 6k+, glyphed Avengers Shield for 9k+ and a 3-4k+ judgement crit. This is almost all holy dmg--compared to ret which has much more white dmg to be mitigated by armor and resilience. A lucky string of crits can drop someone before they even knew what hit them.

The downside is your burst cycle revolves around a 30 second cooldown. If you mess-up and miss a burst cycle it can easily be a loss. But with a target at 50% you should be able to drop them within one hammer and dps rotation.

Mana is rarely an issue unless you forget to hit divine plea or you are mana burned to death by a disc priest left unattended.

I've found the sustained dmg is about 20% less than ret overall, but I'd guess the burst potential is 20% higher. Add to that a ton of dmg reduction talents for better survivability and a hammer on a 30 second cool-down and you have a very very dangerous spec to contend with.

I can easily beat any ret, warrior, DK or rogue in 1v1 except for maybe someone in a full relentless set-up with 1000+ resil, and you will be running about with no more than 400-500 resil yourself. The spec is a major monster in BGs. I've easily solo'd streams of (albeit under-geared), rogues, warriors, ret pallies, DKs all coming at me 2-3 at a time and feeling like Chuck Norris when all is said and done! I especially love hunting rets in BGs, since they tend to be under-geared, or running around in PVE gear thinking they are hot shit and then you drop them within a single hammer while they have wing up.

The bane of our existence is warlocks and mages, but I don't think that's any different than ret. I highly recommend long-time rets with nice gear giving Prot a try--I think you'll find it to be a ton of fun!

[David]

If I read this correctly they are not even talking about having any pvp gear. Just nasty pve gear to get them crits up. Guess your still going to be stuck on a class like a DK for having control over the fight. I`d say prots get kited like hell as well.

[HPAVC]

That ej post is right, in addition to talking about missing the rotation. One of the issues with prot paladin, or more likely paladin in general, is purge spam. You loose a seal, plea, sacred shield and your better be quick on reapply that smack.

[David]

I don`t think you can purge a seal these days.

[Mokoi]

I'll be honest, I tried this a while ago on my pallies, and granted the shields I had on 3 toons were junk, but I didn't see it as any real advantage over Ret. With Ret, the burst is always at your fingertips. A 9 second window of any action, and you are ready to drop another target.

Prot pallies do put out a lot of damage, and the avengers shield is nice, but I'm not sure I'd glyph it for single-target DPS especialyl in arena, 4 of those will completely silence anyone casting anywhere near your target, which would be nice.

I dunno, I didn't give it a good shot, I just kind of tried it out for shits n giggles in some furious and deadly items.

I'd like to see someone with good shields and 1h weapons try it out, and let us know =)

[Crel]

I have always wondered how 5x Avengers shields would look, or the receivers face!
Maybe try 3xglyphs for raw power and the other 2 for the ricochet effect.

[Dawnstrider]

My 5 Pally team is all prot and I have a blast pvping. I am however a pvp newb and never set foot in the arena so I assume my initial adventures in the arena are gonna be me getting pummeled. As much from not knowing what Im doing from anything else. I have tryed all 5 as Ret and it is alot of fun but in the end I enjoy the survivability and the Captain America style pwnage more than I do operating a healing blender. Once I finish getting some better gear for my paladins I"ll give Arena a go. So far the plan is for three of them to be glyphed for Avengers Shield and the other two not. All five will have a Darkmoon card: Death tho for a little extra burst. Just have to wait and see.

I do anticipate having 5 cleanses in one global Cooldown to be a big advantage vs the Locks, DK,s and Priests. The melee teams I am not anticipating to be much of a problem as they will have to also stand in 5 consecrations in addition to everything else.

[Ruodhaid]

It would probably be very fun to play if you like endurance. But PVP is about killing people, outlasting others isn't gonna get you really far.

Same goes for 4x resto shaman for example.

when i get time on my hands ill record something for you to show you what kinda dmg a prot paladin can do

[Littleburst]

when i get time on my hands ill record something for you to show you what kinda dmg a prot paladin can do

Just read that part of EJ and i think i hugely underestimate the damage a prot pally can do, so yeah i'm curious