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    Every single last action that occurs is a direct result of your input.
    Nothing at all happens ever, while you don't push a key or click something.

    That seems to be a very strong indication that there is absolutely no bot action occurring.

    By your definition of botting, every single person who uses any software program is a bot, as they all support keymaps, keymapping, hotstrings etc.

    It is sad, that people have to throw in the "bot" comments, when that is clearly not the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yaki View Post
    Even having it toggle the bind every time is seriously, seriously pushing the boundaries in the best interpretation.
    Blizzard has no issues with a hotkey doing one action on keypress one, and a different action on keypress two. They were the ones who implemented something called a castsequence. They even give a bunch of reset conditions for this action, ranging from a time between presses, target switch etc.

    IS Boxer achieves the same, by a process called Steps. This is a function which Blizzard has been okay with, for years.
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    However, they have also specifically NOT given us an option to IWT in a macro.
    What you are doing with ISBoxer, is basically adding a /IWT macro line to your action.
    I think the fact that blizzard specifically did not give us this option implies they would consider this against their rules.

    There is no way to replicate what you are doing with ISBoxer in game, by blizzard's design.

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    I can't help but read it as one keypress, two actions (1 (key down) + 1 (key up)). I can't see how its anything other then that. I'm not familiar with any action that we perform thats normally allowed that doesn't meet the criteria one keypress one action. However I know some situations where one keypress = no action which I dont know if they care about.

    >a cast sequence is a macro and contained completly in the game under blizards control and allowed

    >a spell cast + trinket activated is a macro contained completly in the game and allowed that performs 2 actions.

    >an external control that allows one key press to do different actions each one time its pressed is still one keypress one action and considered legal.


    I personally would recommend not going with this function.
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    There was/is a bar addon that allowed you to bind downpresses and uppresses and was never stopped.
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    What was the mod? There might of been a mod but blizzard turns off functions all the time so might of been disabled at some point.
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    If I hated multiboxers/ing and wanted to add fuel to the fire I would link this post in the general forums, because it is going beyond one keypress= one action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by defactoman View Post
    What was the mod? There might of been a mod but blizzard turns off functions all the time so might of been disabled at some point.

    button:RegisterForClicks("AnyUp")
    button:RegisterForClicks("AnyDown")
    button:RegisterForClicks("AnyUp", "AnyDown")

    Blizzard allows addons to take advantage of keyup and keydown this is not restricted at this time. Macaroon does this today as does Snowfall keypress

    http://www.wowinterface.com/download...lKeyPress.html
    http://www.wowinterface.com/download...-Macaroon.html

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    Blizzard has chosen to allow addons to register events for key down and key up: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_EnableKeyboard

    IS Boxer is not doing anything that is not expressly permitted by Blizzard, via their own API.
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    That link/API command looks restricted to DIALOG or higher frames. Granted seeing a bar mod capable of doing this seems to suggest otherwise, my concern however isn't the thought of doing '2 actions' with one keypress. I can easily see a key up / key down as 2 separate actions since you can do them independantly and that is the way hardware is traditionally registered with no modification (hence not needing a special keyboard to do such).

    It's my choice whether or not to release the key I pressed and when.

    My concern is with the combining of the FTL assist macro thats defaulted to the DPS keys and then binding one of those keys to IWT thus having a key that performs and FTL assist (which is fine) and IWT on the same keypress (and i'm talking about having it do both on the same keyDown() not one on keyDown() one on keyUp()).

    I'm just curious if there is a way to do this in game or if IS is simply sending a macro to the client followed by a keypress for IWT. Even at the worst case scenario it is a gray area, as I'm thinking this could be done with a /click macro I'm just not familiar enough with them to say.

    Anyone that is arguing that one action per key down / key up is botting needs to brush up on some definitions IMO. Botting implies that something is make a decision for the player, something ISboxer clearly isn't capable of out of the box. We were discussing the ToS in regards to the 1 keypress 1 action rule. Not all infractions of this rule are botting, completely different subject.

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