Origins of the Shammy+Pally Fad/Phase/Craze/Insanity(?)

[Vyndree]

I'm no expert on shaman, nor on WoW. I'm not even sure if I understood you correctly here, but Lightning Overload and Wrath totems is what gives the multi-shaman crew its power, yes?. The amount of focus fire a shaman can do with these abilities can trump 4 mages.

http://www.sk-gaming.com/arena/5/us/shaman/all/all/

Popular builds for high ranked teams (over 2200 rating)
40/0/21 = 45.1%
41/0/20 = 5.6% (+5.6%)

Popular builds for all teams (over 2000 rating)
40/0/21 = 40.5% (-3.7%)
41/0/20 = <2.9% (i.e. not represented)

(Above taken from all 5v5 shaman)

So the answer is no. No serious PvP shaman specs Totem of Wrath over nature's swiftness.

Anyway, the rewards from PvE content just wasn't there for a box crew pre-expansion, compared to PvP... Where as before, in my opinion, it was BGs only.

Correct: http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.3&fi...rs=1:1;crv=0:0

Well, I think a big tipping point as far as survivability and effectiveness is that a shaman group has 5 healers, mages have 1. Therefore people quickly realize that they have to take down 1 character to cripple that group, which is very easy to kill a priest before cheap shot wears off. In a shaman group you can easily obfuscate that, or at least have extra healing (albiet not as great as a holy priest individually) and wear mail.

I've already posted re: mail armor, but I do agree on the confusion on whether or not the shaman is resto or elemental. However, resto shaman are relatively underrepresented in PvP compared to the other healing classes, but I will give you that it at least puts some confusion/doubt in the players' mind.

Although now that shouldn't be much of a problem. Suvega is telling me that the Proximo mod now tells you people's spec.

[Vyndree]

Have the time to level another 5 characters?

I propose a 5 Rogue team

Hahaha, perhaps when I become a millionaire and have a bunch of free time on my hands.

[Slats]

I'm going to give the PvP Shadowpriests a good go, but I'm not going to put a video up till I'm very well geared like Ellay simple because I dont want to share my glory with 400 new multiboxers haha.

I too dont like being one of the crowd. Thats why I played a lock initially, then when they were OP I could rest on the fact I had one BEFORE they were FOTM and I was GOOD at mine not just some copy cat.

While your options are limited as a multiboxer, I do see a distinct difference in people that push the envelope with multiboxing and people that just stay in the shallow water and go where others have gone before.

BTW more videos Vyndree and Ellay, I enjoy watching them, even if you spawn 1000's of posts about Shaman and the like.

-Slats

[Vyndree]

Slats, your sig says you have -9% avoidance. WTF. Negative?

It also tells me you have no talent points, 0 health, 0 armor, and 0 defense. Hax!

[Slats]

I'm not sure whats going on with it, its been going wierd for awhile. I might try one of the other sig providers or maybe make my own if I can get motivated.

Plus my Paladin isn't QUITE as homosexual as the one in the picture. :/ I'm every so slightly more masculine and manly. I also have BLACK hair!

[Stealthy]

The auto-updating sigs haven't been working for a while now - mine is fubar'd as well.

Something else I was just thinking about - totem forests make tab-targetting very difficult (almost impossible I'd say), forcing opposing players to rely on mouse targetting. Stacking toons would make this harder for them as well... 8)

Cheers,
Stealthy

[Ebola]

Ha

I have not yet jumped off the cliff like a lemming....

5 Level 70 priests March 07
5 Level 70 locks July 07 (or thereabouts)
5 Level 70 druids Newyears day 08

Sittng in the launch hanger 5 level 29 pallys and 5 level 34 shaman....

Shamans put on hold untill its uncool to level them

[Wilbur]

Once I get my 5 Boomkin you will all kneel before the master of WTFBBQ!

On a side note, Morganti has 5 69 shadow Priests and is doing *extremely* well in BG's.

[Hippieman]

I guess I'm special! Whee! I'm special!

Honestly, I love my two locks/pally/mage combo. Wouldn't trade it for shammies for the world.

But back on track, it's nice to see a lot of new boxers (I'm not that old myself , in the world of multiboxing that is :P) and there always seems to pop up new combos from time to time. Either five of this or five of that, four of this and one of that, even one of this, a few of that and one of this, etc. etc.

Sure, some combos are more frequent than others, seeing as they're considered easier, but if you dig a bit, you'll notice that a lot of people are experimenting.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

While I might disagree with some of the more vague implications in the "videos create fad" theory, the basic principle that people are more convinced by visible examples than theorycraft and anecdotes is sound.

It should be noted that some of us that have lock+priest teams are switching class selection around due to some evidence that shows some fairly serious issues versus highly-geared folks and/or multiple healer groups. Without any significant burst damage capability like mages/shammies, it makes it hard when people gang up on you.

Thrown in the group renew of healing stream totems, chain mail, staggered tremor totems, resists for just about all magic schools and group buffs that actually stack and you see why it makes a lot of sense.

I'm raising some mages and a pally (level 37 at the moment; pally will be my PVE-only tank) to see how the burst damage does. So far, I'm happy with it. At 34, I was turning in some nesingwary quests in STV when a 36 hunter, 38 war and 39 rogue decided I'd be a free HK. 6 seconds after they attacked me, the 36 and 38 were dead and the 39 was running away on sprint with a sliver of health. And I didn't do anything but just start spamming Arcane Explosion as they caught me with the vendor windows open selling trash. If this continues to scale well, it should be a blast at 70 in most situations. We'll see.