I was drunk when I did this guy on normal the first time and I wasnt sure he even did anything really to damage me. I constantly hit my follow key and just basically stood there until he moved to another spot while i dpsed him. Heoric pretty much the same way. What type of gear/group makeup are you all using these fights are pretty dam trivial if you ask me. why is everyone wiping? You can do this hilt quest on normal form what I have read but dont quote me.
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