Build 10 -- Configs and more GUI

[yaki]

FYI you can edit posts...it helps on keeping down the thread count as compared to making one for every incremental change when the interval is short.

[Freddie]

When a build has something significant in it, about which I want feedback, I start a new thread.

The previous build thread gets locked.

This arrangement was worked out with Svpernova.

The interval is irrelevant because threads are about features, not about how much time passed. Mojo is getting big features very fast. It's only five weeks old, yet already it does KM and broadcast.

There are two main reasons for starting a new thread and locking the previous one:

1. It makes uninvolved people aware of the new feature because a brief description appears in the forum index.

2. It helps focus the conversation on the most recently added feature. This is important for testing.

[Flekkie]

Ooh a new one, I'll have a look in a bit. Didn't expect it to be so WoW focused!


About the buttons from the last thread:

I think you're probably right about this too but I think I'll have to rewrite the code that draws the buttons to make the difference between off and disabled more obvious. (Those aren't Windows buttons although they look like Windows buttons. It took me fhours to write the code that draws them. I wanted to make them look like Vista taskbar buttons except with a green glow instead of orange, but I gave up because it would have taken at least a day.)

Make a minion do it! Erm, I mean trusty colleague.
TBH, I don't know a lot about how these open source things work, but I noticed some trusty colleagues were trying to volunteer in a previous thread..

I only meant that people might want control to go in only one direction. Imagine you have two PCs. You want one to control the other, but not vice versa.
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I'd like to find a solution that (1) is easily seen so people know the feature exists and (2) is easy to use.

Is there is an opportunity to indicate this on the 'computers' tab/screen? You could put computer-specific settings next to each computer icon. [Edit: or click the icon to see them.] This setting might show as "Mouseover from this PC: allowed/disallowed". So when the button was on (green) then those PCs with the allowed setting would be good to go. When off, all mouseover is stopped. If only one PC, leave the button grey but don't show the computer-specific mouseover settings.

If you liked that layout then you could extend the idea: show WoW-specific (later: program specific?) info on the WoW tab, toon-specific on the toon tab, and so on.

[Freddie]

Ooh a new one, I'll have a look in a bit. Didn't expect it to be so WoW focused!

It's because I want Mojo to attract as many users as possible as fast as possible. If I focus on just WoW for the time being instead of trying to make Mojo general-purpose, (1) Mojo will work better with WoW and (2) I can write it faster.

Is there is an opportunity to indicate this on the 'computers' tab/screen? You could put computer-specific settings next to each computer icon. This setting might show as "Mouseover from this PC: allowed/disallowed". So when the button was on (green) then those PCs with the allowed setting would be good to go. When off, all mouseover is stopped. If only one PC, leave the button grey but don't show the computer-specific mouseover settings.

That's a good idea. As far as the details of seeing the info next to each computer, and changing that info, you'll be able to right click a computer and get either a menu or window specific to that computer. You'll also be able to toggle the Computers window and see it in the form of a list (sort of like a spreadsheet) where details are spelled out.

If you liked that layout then you could extend the idea: show WoW-specific (later: program specific?) info on the WoW tab, toon-specific on the toon tab, and so on.

Yes, they will all work as I just described. You'll be able to right click items in the WoWs window and the Teams window and the Toons window to get either a menu or window specific to the item. And you will be able to toggle those windows as a whole between picture view and spreadsheet view. (Microsoft calls the two views "icon view" and "report view." Maybe it would be easier to use the technical names.)

By the way, in case you're interested, you might want to read Microsoft's guidelines for designing interfaces. It explains all the different visual elements that are used in Windows programs. Tells you the names of them, how Microsoft recommends using them, etc.

Windows User Experience Guidelines

If you don't want to read the whole thing, the section on Controls is probably the most useful.

Controls

The program can have other, non-standard interface elements as well, but it usually saves me time to use the operating system's built-in elements.