New 5xBoxer (Mixed!)

[jsmith00075]

Heya,

So I got a brand new PC a few days ago and I finally started up with my Multiboxing! (Playing around 1 day now and 4 people reported me for botting? lol..)

So anyway I am at around 20ish (was using Zygor's guide but gathering 8-15 drop items from a X mob is a PAIN when you have to do it for 5 chars so I am going to try the guide that is around here :P) and here is what I got:

Paladin - Main
Mage x 2
Warlock
Priest

I am using Keyclone (I also got ******** but I am not using it ATM) and Zamba is on!
Now everything (almost) looks fine but I got a few Qs..

I know I mixed a lot of chars there (lol) but I had a master plan! 4 will do dmg from distance (1 will also heal) and my pala will do the rest.. Now that sounds good but I am not so sure of how I should set them up properly, like which is the best way. I also got an issue regarding the "healing" part :/ How am I supposed to set it up so it can actually work decent-good?

I hope my Qs where clear enough..

Thanks!

[Ualaa]

If you are just starting, strongly consider RAF.
Billing can help you convert the accounts, if you're polite and have just started.

A chain is generally the best A -- B -- C -- D -- E.

If you have no toons on any account, level your first group 1-60, mostly with quests.
It's good to have a tank type on the team.
With RAF, you'll quickly run out of quests in a zone (which have not greyed out).
You won't need to do pesky collections much, until Northrend.
Some here or there in Outlands too, but you can skip the painful ones.

I would seriously look at a shaman team, the synergy boxing is amazing.
Pally tank is the easiest to box with.
A melee team is a blast.
4-5x one type of toon can be fun too.

If you have RAF, get a bunch to 60th, then worry about 60-80.






For healing you have three general options.

You can make (macro) for toon specific heals.
Maybe put them on F8 through F12.
/castsequence [target=ToonA] reset=5 Renew, Flash Heal, Flash Heal, Flash Heal
Or something similar.

You can macro so you assist the mob.
/assist [target=PaladinName]
/cast [help] Renew; [help, target=targettarget] Renew; [help, target=targettargettarget] Renew
Make one like this for each major heal.
You can heal whatever by targeting with the paladin.
Or you get the mobs target by default when the pally is tanking.
You can substitute focus or party leader or target based assist methods etc.

Healing by Repeater Region is a lot stronger then either.
If you are boxing, I'd take a hard look at IS Boxer.
It does a lot more then anything else, other then maybe HotKeyNet, but is far easier to configure.
HKN uses scripts, if you're good with them, it is free, while IS Boxer has a subscription fee.

[jsmith00075]

It's been a little chaotic lately (20ish+) since when I get around 3-4 mods the whole team dies lol..

Well the priest goes down first and then I loose control hmm.. I think my mistake is that I use the priest to attack too instead of just leaving him behind just to heal? :/

PS: They are all RAF connected.

[Ualaa]

I'd divide your pulls into 3 categories.

a) Mobs will be dead before they get to the pally. In this case burn them down.

b) Hard hitter. You'll want the pally to pull, eventually your other toons won't be able to take aggro if they try. In the meantime, give the pally a moment for threat and then unload. You might pre-HoT the pally before the pull.

c) AoE fight. 2x Mage and a Warlock is a lot of AoE. Pally has Consecrate, once you get Holy Shield too, he'll hold threat fairly easy. Priest can Holy Nova for no threat AoE or just AoE heal.


At 20th your toons don't have all of their toys.
For the pally, Holy Shield is a major tool, but there are a lot that really help the threat.

For B and C type fights, I'd probably just have the priest watch. Type A, where the mob is dead early, can have priest dps too. It doesn't hurt to use click sequences for your dps. You can do two dps keys, one which has the priest dps key on it, and one which doesn't. And then have everyone else with their dps key on both binds.

[jsmith00075]

Thank you for the info! I am also wondering how do you make the macros and stuff.. I only use the main keyboard (nothing more yet - should I get one keypad or something?) and I have the keys like 2-3-4-5 etc all have some short of hit button for all my chars. So for example with 2 the mages would do frost and fire balls, warlock etc etc

Should I split these up somehow? :/

Thanks!

[zenga]

I'm fairly new to boxing as well (at 71 now with my 4 ele + prot paladin). Might share my experience:

- most macro's on this forum require a lvl 80 with all toys. I've tried adapting those macro's to my respective toon level, but I noticed it was too much trouble (was spending more time macroing things than i was playing). Why? Cause in world pve it's like 1 hit kill. Even now in northrend, I pull 10-20 mobs with my tank, drop 4 magna totems + consecration and they don't even scratch my toons.
- I've used (use) your setup: bind the spells that match to the same position in the actionbar. In world pve I only use 4-5 keys anyway in combat. I also gave stuff like drink, eat, mana potion etc the same hotkey, as well as accept / follow macro's.
- I started fairly late with instances (when I was 60), and there macro'd spells come in handy. For sure on my tank to build aggro. And this gave my playing experience a big boost. I to a look to other macro's (even classes I don't know), just to learn how it works, what might be useful for me and to learn the macro language in general. I have a pretty good idea now how my macro's will look once i hit 80.
- I can only second what Ualaa said about the shaman/prot pally team. It's a great & easy start.

On a sidenote: I've spent quite a lot of time reading/Researching stuff on this forum. For instance guys like ualaa have posted lots of useful stuff in the past. What I do is click the nick, and in the user profile click on statistics and then 'Find all posts by Ualaa'. I mention him but there are a dozen of others as well. The info/tips I gathered from their posts is impressive. Even more, when I do a search on the forum, I'd rather add a nickname to my search than just get all posts. I find it more effective this way.

Well just some general info from a fellow noob/newbie :P

[jsmith00075]

Hehe thank you for the info! xD

I got 0 experience with macros and stuff so I think I am spending way more time macroing than playing.. But I don't really got many macros.. I have made only one and I think it is wrong lol

For all the alts:
/target party1
/target focus
/follow
/assist
/stopcasting

Really I think I messed this thing up :P
Trying to find some basic ones to put now hmm

[Ualaa]

I used to use Party1, be we cannot control who the party leader is, in Battlegrounds.
If you will take the team into BG's, even just for a change of pace, I'd avoid the party1 if possible.
It won't work in the BG's, and I'd rather have a system that works everywhere.

Focus is decent, in arena you'd want it free for directing burst to one target without targeting them.
For general leveling, heroics and battlegrounds, you don't really need focus.
And that's the easiest system to base your macros off of.

Whatever software you are boxing with, you have PiP swap hotkeys.
Create one warcraft macro for each toon on your team.
So a five member team, will have five macros on each team member.
Assign the same keybind in warcraft for a toon as the keybind to PiP swap to that toon.
So when you PiP to toon 2, everyone runs the macro for Toon 2.

Your macros are to the effect of: /Focus [Target=Toon2]

Then you create a follow macro for all toons, on the same keybind.
It will be something like /follow [target=Focus]

For hunters and melee toons, your attacks will be:
/assist [target=Focus]
/cast Sinister Strike..... or whatever.

For everyone else (casters), your attacks are:
/cast [target=FocusTarget] Fireball..... or whatever.

And then heals use double conditions:
/assist [target=Focus]
/cast [help] Renew; [help, target=TargetTarget] Renew

If your leader is targeting a friendly, the heal goes to the target.
But if the target is hostile, it goes to the target's target (which is almost always your tank).

[jsmith00075]

Hmm thank you for the info. Do you have any specific recommendations for my macro? Split it or alter it? (In most cases I don't even know what the commands do..)

I am also thinking of creating a new group (less classes less complicated for newbies :/) and I was thinking of a 5 shaman group. Would you recommend me something else? Like the 4 shammy 1 pala you said above?

Thanks

[Drommon]

Well, IMO, easy mode is 5 shamans. Second best pally+4xshamans, third best... is 5xSomething. After that things get interesting and require more work and class understanding to pull off well. Also, classes like warrior and rogue require ability micromanagement based on battle conditions.

Drommon