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    Default Misunderstanding Boosting

    So I set up a RAF thing between my main and two new accounts. I played for a bit before discovering this place and realizing I should have done things in a chain as per Ualaa's advice, to be optimal. I also noticed that when I was boosting in instances, none of my guys were receiving RAF xp, and after some looking around, realized that was because the mobs were trivial to the booster.

    Ualaa posted that by setting up your RAF in a chain (A refers B, B refers C, etc.) you end up with a situation where, when boosting, A-E are all grouped, and the B-C, C-D, and D-E links all get RAF xp because the boosting character A is not involved in them. However according to Blizzard's FAQ (http://eu.blizzard.com/support/artic...icleId=30562):

    Do I always gain triple experience while I am linked to my recruit?
    No, only when you are partied with a character on the linked account and both players are present when slaying the monster or completing the quest provided that the monsters / quests are not trivial to any party member. Also, if the two characters are not the same level, only the lower-level character is given the experience boost.

    The highlighted bit is what concerns me -- if I blow more RAFs, am I actually still not going to get RAF xp because of this rule? (Since boosting toon A is still in the party, and the mobs are trivial to him.) Was this recently updated? And I tend to think that this paragraph is inaccurate anyway, since the last sentence is clearly untrue (unless the level difference is 4+).

    I realize I did screw up my original 3-boxing fun and blew two RAFs in the process . Want to get future ones right! I was happy to mess around with this one, though as I learned a lot about ISBoxer and Jamba. Lots of reading, lots of testing. My party was just a 3-man WAR/SHA/MAG which made for good fun.

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    Regardless of that post, B -- C will get the RAF when grouped with A.
    A -- B -- C.

    That is, if B and C are grouped, near each other, within 4 levels of each other, 59th level or lower, and fighting content which is not trivial to them.

    If you don't want A in the chain, when A is boosting, that is your option.
    You lose out on the granted levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ualaa View Post
    Regardless of that post, B -- C will get the RAF when grouped with A.
    A -- B -- C.

    That is, if B and C are grouped, near each other, within 4 levels of each other, 59th level or lower, and fighting content which is not trivial to them.

    If you don't want A in the chain, when A is boosting, that is your option.
    You lose out on the granted levels.
    Thanks Ualaa. I figured that you were correct and Blizzard EU was wrong .

    I will reorg my chain. I wonder if Blizzard will have a sense of humor and be able to redirect my RAF, or if I need to start again? I wouldn't mind, but the totem quests are annoying.

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    It's not the first time that blizzard eu states wrong or just outdated info. As a new player I've been looking lately around for info of course, and it happened on several occasions. e.g. Checked the AV brackets and they said the new bracket starts at 71. Which is clearly wrong.
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    Just to confirm as I just set that up;

    With a level 80 A and B,C,D,E being level 1 I got 6 xp (+4 raf, +1 grp bonus) killing 1 wolf on all 4 level 1

    In other hand, despite A in the group B does get raf xp thanks to C being there
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    I suppose the Blizzard quote is entirely accurate, if we make the assumption that RAF will be between two toons and that is it.

    So when its only A -- B, the mobs cannot be trivial to one of the two.
    But then again, it's easier to just remember:
    a) 4 level spread maximum; and
    b) level 59 maximum.
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    Thanks all. I re-set things up tonight the right way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ualaa View Post
    I suppose the Blizzard quote is entirely accurate, if we make the assumption that RAF will be between two toons and that is it.

    So when its only A -- B, the mobs cannot be trivial to one of the two.
    But then again, it's easier to just remember:
    a) 4 level spread maximum; and
    b) level 59 maximum.
    except they used "any" not "both" party members

    ps: on the other hand the link in OP doesn't work - so maybe they fixed the language now
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    So what is the benefit to doing it this way instead of 2 accounts referring to 2 new accounts and having an unlinked 80 running the lowbie toons through dungeons? I have done it this way before and in so doing I can grant a level to the original account and so for every two toons on the new account I gained an extra 60 from granted levels from the new toons.
    Does the A- C linking focus on someone with only one oriiginal account with a high levle toon on it?
    Am I missing something here?

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    Your links only really affect you in a few ways.

    - The parent account gains one month free, when the linked account pays for their first month.
    - The parent account gains a Zhevra mount, when the linked account pays for their second month.
    - The parent account receives half as many granted levels, as the linked account gains levels.

    And:
    - Each linked pair receives 3x normal experience for quests/kills when:
    a) they face non-grey opponents; and
    b) are within 4 levels of each other; and
    c) are 59th level or lower.



    So if you have one existing account, and are going to five box, you'd be best served with a chain.
    A -- B -- C -- D -- E

    If you have two existing accounts, and want to five box, then each needs to be linked.
    A -- C -- D
    B -- E

    If you have three existing accounts, we are limited to only five toons in a group. So we go:
    A
    B -- D
    C -- E

    If you aren't keeping all of the accounts, then granted levels become more of a concern.
    If you're only keeping the one account, link something like this (transfer a toon to Account B).
    A -- B
    A -- C
    A -- D
    A -- E
    Boost four toons on A, C, D and E, with B. Granted levels go back to A, from everywhere.
    And then re-transfer the booster from B back to A.

    Lots of ways to set it up, depending on what you are doing/wanting.
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