What i'm doing wrong..???

[talpax]

Hi

I'm here to get some suggestion about my multiboxing difficulties, in short term this is so damn hard..

I'm using Hotkeynet and Jamba and boxing these sets:

Warrior 80 - Tank
Hunter 77
Rogue 68
Warlock 68
Priest 68 - Heal

Warrior 80 - Tank
Paladin 68
Shaman 78 Heal
Death knight 68
Mage 68

Paladin 68 Tank
Druid 65
Druid 65
Druid 65
Druid 65


Paladin 68 Tank
Shaman 60
Shaman 60
Shaman 60
Shaman 60

Jamba is configured to handle the master focus target , so i can switch the target simply with a keybind, the same key spam the dps sequence
I'm also using the setmaster function so i can handle the change of the master.
Generally i'm using a single pc with 5 wow and i can switch the main window using the window resize of hotkeynet (a little slow ..)
Jamba also handle the follow function very well, just some trouble with the stop follow.
I'm using the interact with target for DPS attack and the other useful functions like the remote DPS turning in the right direction (this is again a little bit tricky...)

Now the question...

What i'm doing wrong, why is so damn hard to do stuff like instances??
I did some outland DG with a lot of trouble...
For example the tank warrior is geared to handle HC of northrend but i'm dying a lot of times in outland DG.
At this time can't even imagine to handle a HC of northrend when the full set ding to 80, not even a normal...

Is there a better software combination to handle this?
Isboxer, Keyclone, ******** ??
Any suggestion is welcome

Talpax -Doomhammer EU

Ps
Sorry for the bad english, i'm from pizzaland

[Otlecs]

I don't think the problem lies in the software you're using, because some people succeed without any boxing software at all, so the problem almost certainly lies with you. Sorry

Can you give us a bit more detail on the sort of problems you're having?

I can imagine, for example, that you'd have a terrible time with the mixed melee / caster groups you've mentioned there unless you have some clever interact with target / click-to-move mappings across your team. Even then it's going to be a bit hairy.

I can also imagine that if you're playing with so many different teams, perhaps you're just not getting enough experience with any one of them? It takes a while to be able to react quickly to bad things happening!

For example the tank warrior is geared to handle HC of northrend but i'm dying a lot of times in outland DG.

I'm probably being very thick, but what's a "DG"? Dungeon? As in instance?

I think this gives us the biggest clue as to what your problem is, and it's one that's hit all of us at one time or another..... HEALING!

If your tank is over-geared, and you're tanking "properly" (with due regard for facing, etc) then you should be absolutely waltzing through the early to mid Outland instances. Some of the level 70 instances are seriously painful to box, so just skip them and head over to Northrend when you get into that range.

So... how are you handling your healing right now?

[Jubber]

Don't feel bad. Some Outlands dungeons just aren't as forgiving as Northrend stuff. I still have trouble with some Outland heroics and my guys are farming HTOC easy. lol. It's no fun to kill the Black knight on heroic then walk into Heroic Shatt Halls and go splat several times in the first few pulls.. Thinking to yourself wth just happened.

[talpax]

I don't think the problem lies in the software you're using, because some people succeed without any boxing software at all, so the problem almost certainly lies with you. Sorry

Can you give us a bit more detail on the sort of problems you're having?

I can imagine, for example, that you'd have a terrible time with the mixed melee / caster groups you've mentioned there unless you have some clever interact with target / click-to-move mappings across your team. Even then it's going to be a bit hairy.

I can also imagine that if you're playing with so many different teams, perhaps you're just not getting enough experience with any one of them? It takes a while to be able to react quickly to bad things happening!


I'm probably being very thick, but what's a "DG"? Dungeon? As in instance?

I think this gives us the biggest clue as to what your problem is, and it's one that's hit all of us at one time or another..... HEALING!

If your tank is over-geared, and you're tanking "properly" (with due regard for facing, etc) then you should be absolutely waltzing through the early to mid Outland instances. Some of the level 70 instances are seriously painful to box, so just skip them and head over to Northrend when you get into that range.

So... how are you handling your healing right now?

As first i'm sorry when i say DG i mean instances...i simply don't like this word

I'm handling the healing in standard situation quite well, i have the healer with the right talent tree so i can handle the situation.

My biggest trouble is always during boss fight when the boss or the adds attack my other characters.
The tank doesn't loose the aggro on boss, simply this is the tactic built in.

I simply don't know how to handle this situation.
For example in Auchenai Crypts (not sure if is in this istance) the final boss alt start attacking the healer and the dps.
When this happen what is the best chance?

Drop the tank and play with the others?
Try to get aggro with the tank?

For example i have tried UK normal and the first boss send the skeleton to the others characters then...panic

[roflstomp]

i currently have all outland heroics on a grid and im 70 team is pally tank lock, sham, druid, priest heals most out the outland stuff the spells hit hard and some adds dont have agro table also whats ur healing macro look like and dps macros? also if u want im on livestream 90 % of time if u want u can make a request i run x instance and ill run it and explain how to run it. www.livestream.com/roflstompmulti

[shaeman]

Tanking as a multiboxer is pretty much the same as tanking as a solo player - except your team know when to hold back on damage to let you build aggro (if needed).

So if adds come in and head for your healer or dps you taunt them off. You also have the added advantage that you can also trigger the slaves aggro drop ability (if they have one) at the same time.

You gave a specific example of utgarde keep, the first boss.

I tend to have all my alts gathered close in to the tank (they are all casters). Then when the skeletal adds come in my tank picks them up (swipe in this case, but consecrate would work on pallys and I guess some AOE warrior thing).

It also means that my guys can drop magma totems to help take them out, and still damage the boss too.

I would suggest sticking with one team initially. Get used to running that, get a feel for the situations you enocunter , then you'll have a better idea for every other team.

[talpax]

i currently have all outland heroics on a grid and im 70 team is pally tank lock, sham, druid, priest heals most out the outland stuff the spells hit hard and some adds dont have agro table also whats ur healing macro look like and dps macros? also if u want im on livestream 90 % of time if u want u can make a request i run x instance and ill run it and explain how to run it. www.livestream.com/roflstompmulti

At the moment i'm using some of the macros suggested here on dualboxing for dps.
For healing just 2 heal main and group heal (like heal chain of shaman)

[roflstomp]

ok heres my healing one
priest healer
/target huhtank
/castsequence reset=combat/15 renew, prayer of mending, flash heal, flash heal, flash heal, prayer of mending, flash heal, flash heal, flash heal

and my lock dps
/assist focus
/castsequence reset=combat/20 Curse of Agony, Corruption, Immolate, Incinerate, Chaos Bolt, Shadow Bolt, Shadow Bolt, Shadow Bolt, Shadow Bolt, Shadow Bolt, Drain Soul

if those help u any other than that try going to my live stream and talk to me there ill runn what ever u want!

[talpax]

ok heres my healing one
priest healer
/target huhtank
/castsequence reset=combat/15 renew, prayer of mending, flash heal, flash heal, flash heal, prayer of mending, flash heal, flash heal, flash heal

and my lock dps
/assist focus
/castsequence reset=combat/20 Curse of Agony, Corruption, Immolate, Incinerate, Chaos Bolt, Shadow Bolt, Shadow Bolt, Shadow Bolt, Shadow Bolt, Shadow Bolt, Drain Soul

if those help u any other than that try going to my live stream and talk to me there ill runn what ever u want!

I'm watching you

[Otlecs]

I see from the preview that others have already said most of this, but since i've wasted all those keypresses I might as well post it anyway!

When this happen what is the best chance?

Drop the tank and play with the others?
Try to get aggro with the tank?

It depends on the encounter

Some random target events are all about just being able to survive, in which case there's nothing you can do except heal whoever's under fire. You should be able to do that while still "playing" your tank, even if it means resorting to some sort of AoE heal.

Sometimes you just need to stop DPS for a while and taunt.

Sometimes there's a specific thing you need to do (like get the hell away), in which case you may well have to switch to that character. To be honest, I never do though. Between global "move" commands (forward, back, strafe) and follow I can usually get away.

When you have trouble with specific encounters, it's worth posting here to see if anybody can help. Personally, I had a terrible time multiboxing TBC instances so I can't offer much useful advice on them, but I know others fared far better.

For the first boss in UK, I keep my entire team on follow until I engage. They stand about a foot behind me, because there's no reason for them to be any distance away in that encounter anyway.

My tank of choice these days is a Bear (yay.... aoe tanking with no cooldown!), and I have swipe in my tanking macro so I tank all the adds.

I know nothing about warrior tanking, but I'm led to believe that all tank classes now have some sort of AoE attack, so it should be entirely possible for your warrior to tank the whole lot.

Above all, though, don't be disheartened by the difficulty of Northrend instances by your experiences in Outland - Northrend instances are just nowhere near as tricky.

And don't forget there's a tactics forum here - I cracked some seemingly impossible fights thanks to some of the guys around here!