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    was it done to make shamans less bursty in pvp? I'm having a hard time seeing the reason behind this change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzyboy View Post
    was it done to make shamans less bursty in pvp? I'm having a hard time seeing the reason behind this change.
    I'm not a maths guy but our harderst hit spell is an auto crit in the initial burst, so maybe and only maybe, it's better to have haste instead of those extra % crit.
    Hope the math guys step forward so we know if haste is more dps than crit.

    From Elitistjerks:

    "In ZAP, assuming EM and BL stack, using them together is roughly equal to using them apart until about 900 haste rating (+ buffs, ~38%). At that point using them separately is better and it's still a DPS increase over the old EM. By 1100 haste without 2t10, if you use new EM+BL together it's less DPS than using old EM, but new EM decoupled from BL is still very slightly higher DPS overall (~10). With 2t10 new EM is clearly better than old EM whether it's used with BL or not.

    This is assuming a 6.7% uptime on BL (that is, 40 seconds every 10 minutes) and an 8.3% uptime on EM (that is, 15 seconds every 3 minutes) without 2t10 (which increases EM's uptime to between 15 and 19% depending on haste).

    So:
    Haste < 900 = no significant difference between using EM with or without BL
    Haste > 900 = better to use without BL
    That means it'd be better to use the new 3.3 PTR incarnation of EM on cooldown every cooldown than to wait and synch it with BL.

    If most of us save EM for use with other cooldowns at present, this change would increase our EM usage and uptime as well as increasing the DPS of the effect, which adds up to more of a DPS boost than the spreadsheet will claim (as it assumes EM usage on cooldown every cooldown anyway)."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzyboy View Post
    was it done to make shamans less bursty in pvp? I'm having a hard time seeing the reason behind this change.
    LESS? THey didn't say they are removing the nature's swiftness effect. That's still there from what I understand.

    THey are just changing crit to haste. Haste = moar bursty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fursphere View Post
    LESS? THey didn't say they are removing the nature's swiftness effect. That's still there from what I understand.

    THey are just changing crit to haste. Haste = moar bursty.
    Not really, everything will be on cooldown except lightning bolt. In arena it's a nerf for sure.

    Haste might be ok in battlegrounds or something. Maybe put nitro boosts on my gloves, pop bloodlust... cast really fast for 15 sec... oh wait just lightning bolt

    give me no cooldown on chain lightning and that might actually be interesting

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