I realy do envy horde boxers

[Ridere]

Exactly. At least on my BG, you don't wanna BG as horde. The alliance wins a lot more than they lose, and that gets old after a while, OP racials or not.

Wow, that's really too bad.

Join the battle group The Scryers is in. I just armoried Arlassa after my recent 6 pvp mount farming session, and here are the results

Battleground (Won/Played)

AV: 48/105
AB: 30/93
WSG: 26/102

If you haven't pvped in awhile, you may want to try again. With faction changes, I think a lot of the more competitive BGers jumped ship from Alliance to Horde.

I used to agree with you all that AV was basically an Alliance win. pretty surprised that I've actually lost more than I've won. 95% of all that data listed below was from the last few weeks. Only BGs I did on Arlassa before were holiday achievement related. So maybe 1-5 games at most.

So yah. It's good to be horde on my battlegroup.

[Gares]

Its hard to find a setup that works well with a solo Ret paladin. I play Rogue/Ret/Priest in 3's and it use to be a rockin setup but when Ret got its damage nerfed the comp became subpar.

We pretty much get wrecked by any good wizard cleave team and teams with mages are almost a guaranteed loss for us as well if the mage is decent.

For 5's they really don't fit in anywhere unless your running triple melee cleave which most people don't

[Whowantstoknow]

I wouldnt change faction or reroll just for racials though as they are due for rebalancing in Cata.

[Multibocks]

Why prot? What ability do they have that does massive damage?

[thinus]

Why prot? What ability do they have that does massive damage?

Invulnerability.

[Tasty]

Why prot? What ability do they have that does massive damage?

They have the ability to faceroll like all the other prot classes in pvp :P What can you do when you're facing someone with 50k hp lol

[heyaz]

They have the ability to faceroll like all the other prot classes in pvp :P What can you do when you're facing someone with 50k hp lol

I think the proper spec uses pvp ret gear, so it's probably more like 35k

[Whowantstoknow]

I think the proper spec uses pvp ret gear, so it's probably more like 35k

PvP prot Pals (DPS) use 2pc T9 and a bunch of PvE items for Block Value so their HPs are usually higher than most anyone you regularly see in arena - not 50K though :P

[Multibocks]

lol that doesnt put ouch much dps though. I guess if you wade into a group of attackers and cast consecrate (wooptie!) you might get decent damage, but one mage casting one blizzard will easily beat you.

[thinus]

lol that doesnt put ouch much dps though. I guess if you wade into a group of attackers and cast consecrate (wooptie!) you might get decent damage, but one mage casting one blizzard will easily beat you.

Retribution aura?