Shaman macros

[Bettysue]

3 LBs after LvB? is your cast time 2.66s?
Also cl after LVB is bad idea, since its instant it will hit the boss before you will gain CC from lvb, meaning it will cost full amount of mana, always do lb after lvb

I run around doing most things in PvP gear so I don't have much in the way of haste.

Both CL and LB have a cast time that is long enough when you lack haste to allow for the travel of LvB. The time you spend casting is plenty of time for the CC to proc and be used. Another thing is there is no advantage since CC reduction is applied on next spell cast not spell hit. I always place CL after LvB and haven't had problems with CC at all...again this is with little to no haste.

[Whowantstoknow]

LvB has a travel time - if you cast CL after LvB and are at range there is a good chance that CL will be cast without the CC buff. The preferred "rotation" is LVB-LB-CL to minimise this possibility.


summary

If there is no chance in going OOM then use CL on cooldown
If managing mana is important use CL only with CC buff, use LVB-LB-CL to make sure that CC will be up fo CL
drop CL during BL

[Niley]

Both CL and LB have a cast time the time you spend casting is plenty of time for the CC to proc and be used. Another thing is there is no advantage since CC is applied on spell cast not spell hit. I always place CL after LvB and haven't had problems with CC at all...

Watch and learn, made this just for you. Next time before You spread false information, test it for Yourself first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqB7EiFFazk

lvb hits, but look cl actually hits before lvb, and i end up with 2 cc buffs, none used.

[Bettysue]

Ah yes you have a hasted CL cast that is shorter than the travel time of LvB to proc the CC. I can see how that would cause a problem, the spell is still working like it should, and with base cast times which is what I'm near most times, this problem can not occur.

So I'm not spreading misinformation anymore than you might have been, it was just information based on different criteria. I've corrected my post above to reflect that my statement is true while not hasted.

[suicidesspyder]

yea i changed it all i rarely use chain lightning any more now. I just put flame shock and lvb on click and spam lb. Never really needed chain lightning cept for arena.

[Niley]

Ah yes you have a hasted CL cast that is shorter than the travel time of LvB to proc the CC. I can see how that would cause a problem, the spell is still working like it should, and with base cast times which is what I'm near most times, this problem can not occur.

So I'm not spreading misinformation anymore than you might have been, it was just information based on different criteria. I've corrected my post above to reflect that my statement is true while not hasted.

No, this is also incorrect. Here is me naked, with zero haste, same effect. Lvb aND Cl cc is common knowledge, i didnt make this up :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFZ3umTl4uk

I like how my mana is almost empty after i casted cl

yea i changed it all i rarely use chain lightning any more now. I just put flame shock and lvb on click and spam lb. Never really needed chain lightning cept for arena.

Cl adds a fair amount of dps on single target after latest changes to shamanism.

[Bettysue]

Ya Niley I know this happens with frost mages and is a serious pain in the ass, I've never had this problem on my shaman though. I'll get off my butt tonight and DL fraps to show you what happens for me.

I'll flameshock(no crit) LvB (crit proc CC) CL (crit proc CC) but you can see the mana cost stay reduced from the LvB and the charges quickly go 2-1-2. If CL doesn't crit it of course stays 1. So I honestly have no idea how to duplicate the scenario.

I'll try with and without a castsequence, since I know sequences slow down while waiting to cast the next spell on higher latency connections (e.g. mine in Korea). I'll also respec to match your talents exactly. Are you standing at the absolute max distance that allows all 3 spells?

[suicidesspyder]

I must be doing something wrong. Still on ptr testing out click sequences and using bis gear but still having trouble breaking 5k dps ill link if neone can help specially u niley. Since ive seen alot from your side.
/click MultiBarLeftButton7
/click MultiBarLeftButton8
/click MultiBarLeftButton9

/castsequence reset=target Flame Shock,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

/castsequence reset=target Lava Burst,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

/castsequence reset=target Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, lightning bolt, chain lightning

Also i never understood the reason on flame shock for the space in between the commas. Tried without and its like my guy doesnt cast. Any help would be great trying to get this all set before my beast computer comes in.

[Drommon]

I must be doing something wrong. Still on ptr testing out click sequences and using bis gear but still having trouble breaking 5k dps ill link if neone can help specially u niley. Since ive seen alot from your side.
/click MultiBarLeftButton7
/click MultiBarLeftButton8
/click MultiBarLeftButton9

/castsequence reset=target Flame Shock,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

/castsequence reset=target Lava Burst,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

/castsequence reset=target Lightning Bolt, Lightning Bolt, lightning bolt, chain lightning

Also i never understood the reason on flame shock for the space in between the commas. Tried without and its like my guy doesnt cast. Any help would be great trying to get this all set before my beast computer comes in.

It should be reset=combat instead of reset=target and the spelling should be exact like "Chain Lightning" caps and all. There should be no space between the commas. The space is put there by the editer, something about some sort of character limitation.

[suicidesspyder]

Ok thanks will try this out.