I'm really becoming quite swayed towards the 4x Rogue team instead of the 4x Ret team, mostly due to your video and confidence level plus the theorycrafting that has happened.

Every time I get kited and killed by 2-3 people in AV I get a little bit more discouraged about the Rets. The damage is insane when I get on a target but getting there can be a *huge* problem sometimes. A good frost mage is nigh-uncatchable for me and I'm not sure what to do about it. Yeah, HoF helps but they can just blink and kite until it's down and then we're back to the begining. Maybe this is just an example of me being a skill-less nub, but I'd like to think otherwise

I'm just scared to invest the time into the Rogues and see nothing come of it. The non-viability in pve is something of a concern for me but nothing huge.

Convince me