4x Rogue PTR

[Multibocks]

Cant wait to see some arena vids!

[SideWays]

My 4x rogues + druid healer are on their way to 80 (atm 20 but i will be 80 "soon").. Cant wait to do real PvP with them

[Naysayer]

I still enjoy watching Ellay's old videos, they're what got me to pick up the hobby, but lets be honest, when I watch the old 5v5 arena videos I can't help but to think how easy it was.

No cleave/everyone has AOE, no shadow fury, 1 bubble class - I mean, all you really had to deal with was line of sight.

The burst was waaaaay lower which is what made the comp so good - as 4 elemental shamans back then we could burst people before everyone could.

And in season 10 we will be saying the same things in general about 4xmelee burst that has recently been discovered to work due to IWT changes, just like when ellay showed everyone that shaman burst worked back then.

"it was so easy back then, you didn't have to deal with what we have now"...

Someone showed you what they found to work, and you copied it. It wasn't easy before that, and it wasn't easy for the originator to figure out how to get it to work. Being a copycat isn't as impressive as the guy who put in the work to solve all of the problems for you. So, give credit where credit is due.

[Naysayer]

I pretty much entirely disagree with each point. But to each their own of course.

try 5boxing after you reach whatever rating you feel your 4boxing group peaks at, and then get back to me. you've said it yourself several times that having a healer makes it so much easier, and krom carrying that load himself just makes it so much more impressive.

and you can disagree all you like, but i have no doubt if every pvp boxer were asked whether or not they'd feel more accomplished if they reached a high rating alone rather than with a healer partner, by far the majority would say alone. that's why we box in the first place, to do it alone.

[Multibocks]

so, how about them yankees?


:rollseyes:

[Naysayer]

so, how about them yankees?


:rollseyes:

still buying titles while the smaller markets can't match those massive free agent bids. keep voting against a salary cap so you don't get brought down to an even playing field with everybody else. basically they are the equivalent of someone being allowed to bring 10 characters to 5v5 arena. no respect for that bullshit imo.

[Multibocks]

Well I was hoping they would lose the series, I consider them how not to run a team in the MLB. Not because I don't think they are successful, but because buying a team just seems so... wrong.

It's like paying top arena people to carry your team to gladiator. Sure they can do it, but does it mean as much?

[Mosg2]

Naysayer, I think the problem is that you're trying to speak for all of us here when you say that we all want to get Gladiator by ourselves. 4+1 Gladiator is pretty f'ing amazing in my book.

[Naysayer]

Naysayer, I think the problem is that you're trying to speak for all of us here when you say that we all want to get Gladiator by ourselves. 4+1 Gladiator is pretty f'ing amazing in my book.

You're implying that i don't think gladiator 4+1 is also amazing, which is wrong. It is, but there are things that are far more impressive, like building the blueprints others copy to reach that level. Like almost going 100% win percentage and having the worlds best teams ducking you. Like playing as 1 person against 5 instead of two minds versus 5.

Solo gladiator would be the communities original goal if a comp was found to be possible from the start. Most would be running it rather than a 4+1 comp.

[asonimie]

You're implying that i don't think gladiator 4+1 is also amazing, which is wrong. It is, but there are things that are far more impressive, like building the blueprints others copy to reach that level. Like almost going 100% win percentage and having the worlds best teams ducking you. Like playing as 1 person against 5 instead of two minds versus 5.

Solo gladiator would be the communities original goal if a comp was found to be possible from the start. Most would be running it rather than a 4+1 comp.

It would be fuckin amazing yes, I agree. I just personally have zero issues with playing with my healer buddy.
I would reactivate my 5th account to do it in a heartbeat... I just can't think of any comp accomplishing that. Top teams have figured out a couple ways to beat krom, which btw, melee strategies are not being said aloud on these forums for a reason.. so don't ask.

Running 5x dps is so touchy and no room for error compared to a healer.
We still make our own schedule, just txt each other and bam games... (altho for 5v5 you are kinda limited to late afternoon / evening anyway). We still piss people off, and we still hit 2k (hopefully higher with my lil roguie babies). Those are my main goals, and I actually enjoy the communication and laughter / comaraderie my healer and I have.

To each their own, and if a viable 5xboxer comp makes itself viable in the future I will be there for sure. Keep in mind we never know what cataclysm and "path of the titans" will offer us. Whole new set of skills and effects added to our spells... could be something in there game breaking just like "elemental mastery" was back in season2 which got most of us started boxing