4x Rogue PTR

[asonimie]

with a friend healer or not, it'd be a great achievement to get to 2200 with any non-shammy team. i think you're going to face some unexpected hurdles when you go up against the creativity of 2k+ teams with your rogues though and the first and second kill will be harder than you think.

melee in general does great pre-2k and then hits a wall vs. groups that know how to screw with you. i'm working on a druid team now.

I'm interested in what you've noticed from a melee viewpoint, what tricks and hurdles have you seen from teams that give you trouble, in other words... What are people doing to beat your pallies regularly(specific examples would be awesome)? I can guess based on what I've seen from my caster shammies against 2600 teams, but melee will be a new adventure for me. Any help would be great Krom, as I can start planning for things people may try against my rogues

Top teams are incredibly smart, but thats the fun of it! Beating gladiator teams is the most fun I've had in this game. Makes it all worth it for me.

Nice video. Highly amusing to watch how fast squishies die. That one pally at around the 6:00 mark was a lot tougher. Prot/Holy? (i.e.: the build that's getting nerfed next patch?)

Still, neat to see the interact stuff working well in PVP. On a related note, I notice your guys target OK with your main stunned. Do you have 'em setup to attack the current target or failover to the main's target? Interested in how you're set up for that eventuality.

That pally was full prot, in full PVE tanking gear. He tanked me like a pack of scarlet monastery mobs :P Not a concern for arena tho, just someone dicking around.

My setup on PTR was very simple, they are just assisting my main rogue. They never de-select for follow, so when I get stunned they just keep spamming and IAWTing whatever they already had. I can switch targets while stunned and they pickup the change... so very ezmode from what I've seen so far.

[Clovis]

I still havne't gotten around to trying this Every time I think of it, I'm in the middle of something and I need to redownload the test client (I deleted it for hard drive space, then added a 1500gb HD, lol).

Looks like it has a lot of potential - in doing arenas I've found three very good, reliable healers that I do 5v5 with and oddly enough the 3rd is another (resto) shaman.

Could be fun since my shamans are basically maxed out and my playing on them lately consist of checking the AH for mats I need for leveling JCing and doing dailies - no real gear accomplishments left to get, just waiting on points for things.

But the real question is, roll human rogues or faction change the shamans over and roll undead? =P but WTF is getting nerfed to hell right?

[Ualaa]

Depending on how quickly you kill things, consider the dot opener and finisher.
DoT's ignore armor.

But if you're dropping them quickly anyway...

[Whowantstoknow]

5xGoblin rogues

[asonimie]

I still havne't gotten around to trying this Every time I think of it, I'm in the middle of something and I need to redownload the test client (I deleted it for hard drive space, then added a 1500gb HD, lol).

Looks like it has a lot of potential - in doing arenas I've found three very good, reliable healers that I do 5v5 with and oddly enough the 3rd is another (resto) shaman.

Could be fun since my shamans are basically maxed out and my playing on them lately consist of checking the AH for mats I need for leveling JCing and doing dailies - no real gear accomplishments left to get, just waiting on points for things.

But the real question is, roll human rogues or faction change the shamans over and roll undead? =P but WTF is getting nerfed to hell right?

I rolled humans, sapping another rogue out of stealth was worth it, other alliance racials dont help rogues that much. Except NE but I don't want them lol.

Depending on how quickly you kill things, consider the dot opener and finisher.
DoT's ignore armor.

But if you're dropping them quickly anyway...

Actually one thing I might do is open up with 3 second garrote silences on 2-4 people, making them unable to heal/fear/whatever for 3 seconds.... which is almost enough to kill someone. This all depends on how they arrange themselves... but we'll see its an idea. I'll probably for SURE kill 1 healer while I garrote silence the other any chance I can get.

[Mosg2]

I would imagine a DPS being the better initial target myself.

[Naysayer]

Yes it was very impressive, and mostly to me because he did something original... kinda like boxing rogues to 2k+ would be :P I didn't say surpass kromtor in coolness... only rating :P I think it took balls to gear and level 4 toons nobody had ever tried seriously in arena(altho ret dps is retarted). I'm hoping my time spent will prove as fruitful. My arena goals are always based on beating or trumping my own previous accomplishments.

ps. my healer is duelist.

original yah, but the impressive part was doing it alone. i think that's the ultimate goal here for boxers, to do it alone. getting 1800 alone is a lot more impressive than 2200 with help imo. next would be gladiator the way ellay was doing it back in season 3 or so with like 98 wins and 2 losses and had every top team dodging him at the end of the season. that shit was amazing.

[asonimie]

original yah, but the impressive part was doing it alone. i think that's the ultimate goal here for boxers, to do it alone. getting 1800 alone is a lot more impressive than 2200 with help imo. next would be gladiator the way ellay was doing it back in season 3 or so with like 98 wins and 2 losses and had every top team dodging him at the end of the season. that shit was amazing.

I pretty much entirely disagree with each point. But to each their own of course.

[Gares]

I think at this point anyone who boxes (alone or with a healer) and can get glad is pretty amazing considering the state of the game.

[Clovis]

I still enjoy watching Ellay's old videos, they're what got me to pick up the hobby, but lets be honest, when I watch the old 5v5 arena videos I can't help but to think how easy it was.

No cleave/everyone has AOE, no shadow fury, 1 bubble class - I mean, all you really had to deal with was line of sight.

The burst was waaaaay lower which is what made the comp so good - as 4 elemental shamans back then we could burst people before everyone could.

original yah, but the impressive part was doing it alone. i think that's the ultimate goal here for boxers, to do it alone. getting 1800 alone is a lot more impressive than 2200 with help imo. next would be gladiator the way ellay was doing it back in season 3 or so with like 98 wins and 2 losses and had every top team dodging him at the end of the season. that shit was amazing.