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  1. #1

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    Stop advertising other means of multi-boxing in this thread. I'm not making a KeyClone clone.
    advertising? i thought it was free? what would mentioning another solution do to impact a free 'product'

  2. #2

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    No one is advertising anything. We're just trying to figure out what your program can bring to the table that we can't get yet.

    It's kind of like a car website, where you post "Hey, got this brand new awesome car model I'm developing. Can't tell you what engine it uses, can't tell you what it looks like, or if it's safe. In fact, it's highly probable it's NOT safe because I have no idea what highway safety is. I'd like you to contact me about driving in this car except I can't reveal anything about the insides of it to you."

    EDIT: Not to mention that there's a small chance that when you get in the car, your wallet is stolen by the car's seat. :P

    Uhh, sorry, not getting in that car. :roll:

  3. #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyclone
    anything that is free and not open is a password thief, trojan or virus in my book.

    without accountability it's just too risky
    Well not to rain on a parade but was Keyclone always a widely known reputable program? Did it not need some amount of trust and testing to be forged into what it is now?

    I believe that most if not all the best things in life are free (excluding s.t.d's and things of that nature).

    Note: Linux is free, is it stealing your passwords?

  4. #4

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    Quote Originally Posted by elitegunslinger
    Note: Linux is free, is it stealing your passwords?
    Linux source is free too.
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  5. #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by thinus
    Quote Originally Posted by elitegunslinger
    Note: Linux is free, is it stealing your passwords?
    Linux source is free too.
    That is the point I am trying to make, is Keyclones source open? Just because you have a situation like:

    Soure:Open Price:Free
    &
    Source:Closed Price:Free

    Doesn't instantly make it a virus or a logger. I do agree it sounds fishy but that is a risk for whoever to take.

    But remember even if:

    Source:Closed Price:Not Free

    Exists doesn't mean it isn't a virus or a keylogger either. His statement begged the question so I asked.

  6. #6

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    Quote Originally Posted by elitegunslinger
    Quote Originally Posted by thinus
    Quote Originally Posted by elitegunslinger
    Note: Linux is free, is it stealing your passwords?
    Linux source is free too.
    That is the point I am trying to make, is Keyclones source open? Just because you have a situation like:

    Soure:Open Price:Free
    &
    Source:Closed Price:Free

    Doesn't instantly make it a virus or a logger. I do agree it sounds fishy but that is a risk for whoever to take.

    But remember even if:

    Source:Closed Price:Not Free

    Exists doesn't mean it isn't a virus or a keylogger either. His statement begged the question so I asked.
    Yes, as a blanket statement it is not objective. However, I think you needed to add a "until proven otherwise" clause to the end of the sentence.

    1st time poster
    No screenshots
    No feature list
    Obscure "multi-box tool" description
    Private server red flags
    Might be deemed illegal by Blizzard red flags

    I am sure KeyClone built up a reputation on these forums and earned the trust of most of the people that read these forums. If the OP wants alpha testers they can build up their reputation on here as well or in some other community.

    Currently it seems like a fishing for suckers scam.
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  7. #7

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    keyclone's source is not open and it costs money... thereby motivating Solid ICE (me) to insure its quality (welcome to capitalism). it is also coming from a company that has been incorporated since 1998.

    on top of that, you have regular access to the developer... fast, responsive customer support, and has been proven in-game (initially shadowbane in apr 2006).

    if there were any problems, they would become instantly obvious in these forums. all major problems are dealt with asap.

    and the last time i checked... viruses, trojans and keyloggers are closed source, have no customer support, come from unknown authors, and are free.

    i tend to be extremely cautious of such binaries

  8. #8

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    This guy sounds nothing like a coder announcing a new project, he does sound exactly like a kid that's binded a trojan or keylogger and hoping to get a few new wow accounts. Most of the regular posters know better but I'm pretty sure this guy has already gotten messages from those less savvy.

    This thread really should be deleted.

  9. #9

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    I appreciate your willingness to write an application that could potentially help out fellow dual-boxers, and what you are seeing is many members very suspicious and they've clearly stated the reasons.

    We are a very tight knit community and when Keyclone first entered the scene with his application he was also red flagged and dealt with the questions and proved himself hand over hand that he was legit (now we love him .)

    We are not trying to be mean at all, we would like more information on the subject and would suggest screenshots with what your functionality consists of - and why it would be better than what currently exists.

    Futhermore, dual-boxing is already a gray area and I do not promote private servers at all on these forums.

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