Quote Originally Posted by Naysayer View Post
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I don't know what you mean with "party castbars". Perlx shows me what everybody in my party is casting, and no I wouldn't want to be without being able to see that, if that is what you mean.
I agree - it's very useful, which is why I'm looking for an add-on to do that. I've been using pitbull4 so far, which does the same, but i'd really like to keep the add-on clutter to a minimum. There's a big problem however - your party cast bars are only useful when you're grouped with your slaves. This isn't always the case when i BG, so we have one of two options:

1) Learn to live without partycastbars in BG - since PvP requires a lot more attention than non-raid PvE anyway, it should also be possible to live without it in PvE

2) Find an add-on which displays castbars of raidmembers you select. No add-on does that to my knowledge. Vuhdo will display a lot of usefull information in the "private tanks" panel, but unfortunately no castbars.

Quote Originally Posted by Naysayer View Post
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People who use the default character bars are pretty much saying, "hey, i WANT be worse than my potential allows". It's like being able to choose when you are born whether or not you want to go through life with only 1 eye or 2, and then picking just 1.
Haha, that's the most warped analogy I've been exposed to in a long time. And it's erroneous, because it's based on the assumption that more information/options is better, which is not always the case. I agree that seeing the castbars of the characters you control is very important though, and for arena's, a party-add-on is fine, but I'm really missing something where I can keep an eye on my chars in raids/bg.