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    Absolutely Stealthy.

    That human racial day's are numbered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Tire View Post
    Absolutely Stealthy.

    That human racial day's are numbered.
    Agreed. I can't figure out how that racial ever got the green light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stealthy View Post
    However if you want to talk about OP racials, what makes the human racial the best racial for PvP is this reason - it continues to get more powerful as new trinkets are released. Just compare the Titan Forged trinkets to some of the other trinkets available now:
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    Racials need to be dropped completely, made the same for everybody, or set in stone permanently. I hope they aren't going to wreck each race one at a time in order to get a few extra $$ through race changes, but it really seems like that's what went on with wotf right after they opened up transfers and some people switched already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fursphere View Post
    I will agree that the timing is suspicious, especially with the graphic they are using to promote the service (undead to belf).

    But WotF has always been the most controversial racial. Undead loved it, everyone else hated it. That pretty much sums up the last five years.
    If it needed nerfed, it needed nerfed, but where's the compensation? Undead now have water breathing... Cannibalism.... and shadow resist...

    They could have just removed the fear portion and we'd be better off. Using it now is death when it put's the trinket on cooldown. There's no point at all to use it instead of the trinket, and we have to have a trinket or we're toast because wotf doesn't cover 90% of the cc out there.

    Change it, okay, but they went ahead and made it so bad that it's actually a major disadvantage to use it.
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    Fur & Nay - chill out already. Trolling / personal attack posts will be deleted.
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    I am a little confused with the "shared cooldown" as cooldown durations are different.
    WotF - 45s
    Trinket - 2m

    So if you pop your trinket it triggers the cooldown on WotF right? But after 45s WotF is ready for use again but your trinket is still on a 1m 15s cooldown. If you pop WotF now, does it reset the trinket cooldown to 2m?
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    Racials are definitely not going away, as evidenced by Bliizard's announcement of the (strong IMO) racials for Worgen and Goblins. The best we can hope for is getting them balanced.

    Aside from the human racial, if they are going to put a cooldown on WotF, then they should be doing the same to Escape Artist as well. Comparing them with each other:

    (T) = requires talent points spent

    Currently WotF is effective against 4 classes:
    Warriors - Intimidating Shout
    Warlocks - Fear, Howl Of Terror, Seduction
    Priests - Psychic Scream, Mind Control
    Hunters - Wyvern Sting (T)

    Currently Escape Artist is effective against 9 classes:
    Druids: Entangling Roots, Feral Charge (T)
    Mages: Frost Nova, Slow (T), Cone Of Cold, Frost Bolt, Blast Wave (T), Improved Blizzard (T)
    Hunters: Wing Clip, Frost Trap, Concussive Shot, Counter Attack (T)
    Death Knight: Frost Fever (T), Chains of Ice
    Priests: Mind Flay
    Rogue: Crippling Poison, Deadly Throw
    Shaman: Frost Shock, Earthbind Totem
    Warlock: Curse of Exhaustion (T)
    Warriors - Hamstring, Piercing Howl, Improved Thunder Clap (T)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thinus View Post
    I am a little confused with the "shared cooldown" as cooldown durations are different.
    WotF - 45s
    Trinket - 2m

    So if you pop your trinket it triggers the cooldown on WotF right? But after 45s WotF is ready for use again but your trinket is still on a 1m 15s cooldown. If you pop WotF now, does it reset the trinket cooldown to 2m?
    Pop Tinket, trinket shows 2 min cooldown, WotF shows 45 sec cooldown.
    Pop WotF, trinket and WotF both show a 45 sec cooldown

    Its similar to the engineer Pyro rockets and on-use DPS boost trinkets (e.g. www.wowhead.com/?item=Platinum Disks of Sorcery) work - if you use one, the other is locked out for 10 secs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fursphere View Post
    The faction / race change is the same thing, except there is a financial aspect to it. They'll watch all the hardcore Arena / PvP / Raiders migrate to the idea race for each class, take notes, and nerf/adjust as the player based shows. (this time they get to make lots of money!).
    Very true. However, as long as there are racials there will always be "the best" and min/max or player seeking any kind of advantage will migrate to that race. Blizzard's bait and switch tactics are kinda lame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fursphere View Post
    I will agree that the timing is suspicious, especially with the graphic they are using to promote the service (undead to belf).

    But WotF has always been the most controversial racial. Undead loved it, everyone else hated it. That pretty much sums up the last five years.
    I don't think that makes sense when you think about it. The undead had a really useful racial that was causing people to be angry on a regular basis. It stands to reason that people would be likely to switch to undead if they didn't know about the change coming. If Blizzard were using this to milk money, they'd have waited quite a while longer to make this change to WOTF, getting some people to pay 2x for a race change.

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