The No Focus Manifesto V 2.0 - No Focus Simplified

[Johalak]

I've never used FTL systems before, but I've never had a PvP team and have just gotten used to using /follow and /assist keys bound to my slaves...able to clear all heroics with this method, cumbersome as it may be. However, I am now bringing up a 5 Shammy PVP team and have decided I had better embrace the FTL method if I want to be effective, and eventually I would will want to include it in my PvE team. I do however have a question regarding your write up here.

I see you have one button for for the slaves to target your main and follow. I will not need to mash this button everytime I change targets will I? Although I realize in PVP there will be a requirement for much more movenment, if I have my slaves positioned, I do not want them to follow me everytime I change targets. I know this may be self evident from macros you have created, but whenever I've tried to decipher exactly what is happening with the macros in a FTL system, my brain starts to hurt.

[Zzyzxx71]

I see you have one button for for the slaves to target your main and follow. I will not need to mash this button everytime I change targets will I?

Nope!!! Just change targets on your main, as long as the slaves have the main targetted, they'll start pew pewing your new target.

[dubiox]

This looks interesting. I just have a few questions:

I don't see why the keymaps are needed. Won't it work without them?

Have you done any damage testing of targettarget vs /assist focus? Just wondering if there is any lag difference.

What happens when you need to talk to a vendor or questgiver? Now you need another button for assist, and then you'll lose target on your leader. How do you deal with that when you play?

I also don't see why you care about harm/help (in the first two examples). Does it really make any difference if that logic is in the macro? You can't heal a mob and you can't attack your party, right?

This otherwise looks like a nice alternative.

-K

[Zzyzxx71]

This looks interesting. I just have a few questions:

I don't see why the keymaps are needed. Won't it work without them?

Have you done any damage testing of targettarget vs /assist focus? Just wondering if there is any lag difference.

What happens when you need to talk to a vendor or questgiver? Now you need another button for assist, and then you'll lose target on your leader. How do you deal with that when you play?

I also don't see why you care about harm/help (in the first two examples). Does it really make any difference if that logic is in the macro? You can't heal a mob and you can't attack your party, right?

This otherwise looks like a nice alternative.

-K

The keymaps are needed, otherwise you'd have to click on separate buttons to switch leader. This way, (in this example) you just press \ - which I have bound to a button on my mouse.

A long time ago a few people claimed this method was slightly faster than focus/assist methods due to the fact your slaves never need to change targets. They always have the driver targetted. If you want to see what it looks like in practice, check out http://www.ocmojo.com/zzyzxx/H-COS.wmv - watch the parties targets during the fights.

Harm isn't needed in /cast macros, but are needed for /castsequence to work (100% for /click) - it's a habit. As far as having both in the same macro, the 2 in 1, the macro is handling the logic for you, and it's required for it to work. The 2 in 1 isn't a required macro, just a bonus I discovered/wrote I thought might be useful.

As far as vendors/questgivers, yes you need to click them. I do have a seperate assist button setup on my guys, regardless, you'd need to click something for the interact with target function. The lack of this hasn't been a dealbreaker for me.

Best thing I can say if you have any concerns as to if its for you is simply... try it. Roll 2 new toons and test it out. You dont' need thte FTL to test the targettarget functionality.

Give me a few days, I'll roll a few hunters and see what I can do.