It's a bit of a hassle to do it the first time around but oh so worth it!Originally Posted by daviddoran
It's a bit of a hassle to do it the first time around but oh so worth it!
Suggestion
Buy a new hard drive , install windows and start fresh.
never use your gamming machine for email, web, serfing etc.
Buy a cheap PC/laptop/etc for email and web.
ONLY thing you use your gamming PC for is WOW and WOW only never install addons
This has worked for me since they took and owned mine account .
That was almost 10 months ago and no problems yet.
I have been using 1 PC for everything from Grocery Lists to MMOs for a decade and have never been hit with a keylogger or virus. And I spend roughly 12 hours a day online. Housebound is fun, yes?Proper security and learning what is not trustworthy is a lot cheaper and more effective than a separate computer.
I'll share with you something I wrote a few years ago when someone tried to break into my apartment in the middle of the night because this whole discussion made me think of it. 100% true story.
On Keyloggers and Reality.
Amid all the chaos with the cops here, I couldn't help but laugh when my head went from "oh shit, I'm getting robbed" to "OMG! Keylogged IRL!" The cops must have thought I was either crazy or lying when I had to stifle a giggle. Nervous reactions, hoo-boy.
I didn't think it could happen to me, but it did. At about 1AM EST last Thursday, I was going about my normal Startup processes. I have MakeLatte, Kat's Do Dishes ver 1.0 and BootSHDB2.5 {Super Heinous Death Box 2.5} all set to run at startup.
The latter two had completed their processes when Paranoid Cats Deluxe started giving me error messages about Unknown Users trying to access the system. I quickly launched Speeddial_husband.exe and grabbed Big Fuckin Knife out of my Tools folder and confirmed that Stranger.exe was trying to access Frontdoor using something called JimmyLock.
Luckily I had Frontdoor modded with DeadBolt, so I was able to slam BFK against Frontdoor to lock out write access and prevent the program from executing BreakWindow. I closed Speeddail_Husband.exe and launched CallCops {came with my system when I submitted my Local Resident User Agreement}, which immediatly deployed Broward Sherriff's Office '07 with K9 unit, Aerial Search and Local Perimeter.
Fortunately the only casualty was a Burned Milk error from MakeLatte.
I don't know where I got this keylogger from. My system is always on full lockdown and I don't allow any access from unknown sites. I have RandomVisitor disabled and always use Loner with the Antisocial plugin instead of Incredibly Extroverted. I always delete all junkmail unread.
The only thing I can think of is I have recently been using OpenWindows to help when my guild raids Powerbill. I never had a problem with it before, only now that it has gone from Winter06 to Spring07 build. Not to say that the problem is with OpenWindows, I love the program, but I think there may be an exploit out there somewhere that allows Stranger.exe to try and download when it sees OpenWindows users.
So, be careful. If you're running OpenWindows on a FirstFloor system, you should get the Windows patch for DrawBlinds to prevent unauthorized users from being able to browse your Stuff databases. If you have Secondfloor or higher, there is a highly reduced risk of this exploit, but it's still a good idea to have Deadbolt running at all times and no matter what you run, you should NEVER share your key with anyone except a spouse and maybe your children if they are highly responsible. Always update your Deadbolt with a new key if you are compromised by things like Breakup.
Even if you're using a system as obscure as Boonies or using Loner with Antisocial, you can still be hit. I suppose you could always use Hermit, but that's an awful lot of useability to give up when you could simply apply a little extra security and awareness to what is going on with your current system.
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The Almighty Lax made a liar out of me, apparently I DO get prizes for it.
*Commences Wielding the Banhammer like there's piñatas up in here and I'm Lady Thor*
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I love this ... definitely gave me a laugh.
The only secure PC is one that isn't turned on.
Cool, keep putting words in my mouth. I do have faith in Blizzad, and I don't mind giving them money at all. The thing is no company is going to be 100% secure all the time. Twitter was recently hacked due to a Google app vulnerability. Shocker! Google being vulnerable! NO WAI!!!!
You mentioned you are "sorta" in the intrusion detection field, I'd imagine someone with your knowledge would know this. Then again you "nuked" Windows 7 in favor of XP because it "uses more memory".
I'm still laughing btw. Thanks!
The poetry that comes from the squaring off between,
And the circling is worth it,
Finding beauty in the dissonance
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Pure Win! Sorry you had to experience system problems like this. Might I recommend my two friends to help with the situation? Smith & Wesson.
Barring AmbulanceChasingLawyer.exe, HotLeadtoBreakingandEntering version 357 (38 or 44 are very good also) is an excellent defense if FrontDoor is offline.
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Although one not connected to the internet is fairly secure and infinitely more useful then an off PC.
Really liked your story Khat.
Can't say I'm a fan of S&W...my uncle used one of those programs to terminate his access permanently. The other half had a MAC10, but he was quick to delete that one when we got pregnant. That didn't work out for us, so he sometimes talks about installing another version, especially since it's been 2 years and we're still hearing of other people on our network getting Keylogged in the same manner.
Blog : Herding Khats
Team : Kina - Çroaker - Messkit - Lìfetaker - Wìdowmaker
Newbie Guides : Multiboxing Vol. 1 - Multiboxing Vol. 2 - HotKeyNet - Jamba
The Almighty Lax made a liar out of me, apparently I DO get prizes for it.
*Commences Wielding the Banhammer like there's piñatas up in here and I'm Lady Thor*
_ Forum search letting you down? Use the custom Google search _
To OP:
Fursphere is right, if you haven't done it already do it now, even if you do find the virus with a virus scanner chances are you won't be able to remove it.
And to this angry individual....
I pronounce you Sir Sofa King Wee Tah Did
Why would you laugh at formatting suggestions? Because you like having keyloggers? Kinda like having crabs you grow attached to them? Or vise versa....
Blame Blizzard? Sure, we can, they DID admit they were in the wrong once, but remember they don't surf the internet where you can accept viruses left and right 14x hours a day... After not only gaming and being a poor student for many years having to fix stuff myself and then working in the field, shit happens and 9/10 times format = 10x easier then "removing the virus" 3+ hrs virus removal or 2 or less hours of formatting...I think you Sir Sofa King can do the math there
Oh and funny story Khat, was great =P
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