Why should I help others if I get no extra dkp?

[Zal]

The rule i follow when play with all my characters in a raid:
"All my characters will be treated like any other player in the raid. The only difference is i can choose who gets what loot. For instance say i have 4 characters but only 3 need the item that drop, i get 3 rolls but last in my chain of command wins, i want loot on the 2nd since my first already has the item." However the loot on character i want thing doesn't need to be said now since you can trade bop items now to fellow raid members.

[Mooni]

Zal that's what I'd do if I was in charge.
But I like to pre-empt any resistance by saying up front that I'll only do two rolls: One for my main and one for my alts (until everyone in the raid's gotten somethin who wants somethin')
Now that stuff is tradeable, it's nunya what I do with it once I win either.

[Babysir]

My question stems from Lord of the Rings Online but the idea is still the same. And the idea of the question is actually before and after the fact. What I mean is no extra DKP for helping with those extra characters, and no extra bidding after. No matter what I do its still as if I was one person playing 1 character. This is why I am asking this question.
Needless so say your opinions have been been a help. My choice is no longer assist them in a multibox style since I won't be rewarded for it. However, I will still assist them with any 1 character in which the way I am rewarded.
I wasn't sure I wanted to do it but after asking the question here, you all gave me my answer. Thank you.

Well to be honest the problem is lotro. The playerbase there is worse than WoW, believe me I've been around lotro since beta and am a lifer. I'm surprised a guild even accepted you, I've seen their multiboxer threads and there is some serious hate going on there. I know some people even go as far as making blacklists and if any player is caught assiting a boxer in any way they are insulted and added to this list. Obviously those that follow these lists aren't the entire server, but it gives you an idea of just how childish they can be.
I hope they take your choice to no longer help them as a multiboxer well.

[Mukade]

Well (for WoW and the new 2 hours trading on loot) I'd say what's to stop 2 or more seperate people in a raid rolling on loot, and then giving it to the other person, just to increase the number of people rolling, and that /group's/ chance of getting the item.

There's no way for the rest of the guild to know if any of it's members are acting in their own interests in rolling on loot (unless everyone is armoried regularly to make sure they are using items they won), so why should they stop you from doing the same.

You getting 5 rolls on loot, and then giving it to whichever alt you want from that group who needs it, is no different from 5 players rolling on loot, and then giving it to whoever needs it behind the scenes (within class use rules for the item).

[Ualaa]

Ultimately, the toon that receives the item will be charged DKP or whatever for the item.

A guild is within their rights to ask that you equip, gem and enchant items which you win.
So nothing really stops you or others from moving things around.
But there's a good chance you can be caught if they think it might be an issue.

The simplest solution is to track DKP or points on a per character basis.
So if one of your toons wins, its deducted from the points that toon has won.
The other toons have no claim on something, because the person with the most points (or a roll off if within x points of another toon) won it, and had the commensurate amount of points deducted from their total.

Chances are most guilds won't go with DKP on a per character basis.
But long term, its probably the most fair solution out there.

[Kromtor]

Never agree to raid with guilds who don't give you full credit for each character.

[daviddoran]

Look at it this way. (and it's been said before):

If they NEED you to fill out the group to be able to accomplish something, then every toon you bring gets equal rights to loot as the next.

If they LET you bring more in, but could have done it without you boxing (or even more so if it takes LONGER for you to get used to boxing an encounter, vs solo playing it F you grobulus), then you haven't really earned much by using multiple characters, and it would seem unfair to most if you got more loot.

You can make up for much of the difference by running your own heroics, and gear up that way. Also, (assuming you are playing wow) when an item is looted, you have 2 hours before it's fully soulbound, so you can just /roll on one toon and give it to whoever you want later.

[Mooni]

The only reason I don't go in making demands about how I get one roll per character is the scenario my guild leader put forth:
I go in, I win loot off of the first four bosses. No one else wins. They see one person's main and alts getting all the gear. Drama happens.

Because I love my guildleader I accepted that it'd be better to find compromise between the fact that I'm just one person and the fact that I do pay $14.99x5 for all the alts.

[Kromtor]

They're not "alts" if you play them at the same time as your main. An "alt" is a character you play when you want a break from your main. Just tell them you have your houseboys playing each character when raiding - then it'll be 1 roll per person which is what they so oddly desire.

[Xtremepayne]

So you're allowing ignorant people to continue to be ignorant - borderline stupid.

Good on you for taking the high road and avoiding the drama, but not all people are in this mind set.

I ran a Pug Naxx25 once with my tank and 2x Shaman. I did the last 6 bosses with them, me equally splitting my roles. 3 fights I was tank + 2x healers (healing both MT and OT) and 3 fights I was heal + 2x DPS (holy pally).

When it came to loot, I clearly asked do I get to roll on all three, or just one for all three, as I didn't want drama. The "raid leader" said "1 roll per three toons" and then about 5 people on vent proceeded to tell him he was wrong and that I should get 1 roll per toon, as I'm playing all three. (one person actually metioned that I was working harder than anyone else... lol).

So, they're are good people out there. The ones that tell you "1 roll for all toons" are just greedy loot whores and should be gkicked.

If they whole raid doesn't get geared, then the whole raid suffers.

Drama is exactly what I want to avoid. And Compromise is extactly what I have been doing. This is why I aksed this question here. I am not seeking special privledges.
My thought rather then give a 1 to 1 ratio of DKP, why not a 1.5 when I brink my alts. I would also have to stay to 1 bid per item on the character of choice that went on the event. The 1.5 would apply regardless of how many alts I bring to assist. Its not often that I bring them in a raid fashion but if I did, at least I would recieve something for my efforts. Or could this make me seem selfish?