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    Arrow Felguard Tank (PVE, no instances!)

    I'm thinking about a druid (healer) + 4x warlock setup for farming
    the dailys and questing.

    Anyone got some experience in using the felguard as a tank?
    I'm not interested in doing heroics or even non-heroic instances...
    it's just about tanking an elite mob to complete the quest (like
    the 4 elite quests in dragonblight / wintergarde keep) or the arena
    quest in Zul'Drak or killing the elite mobs for the daily Qs in icecrown.

    I'd like to know if it's possible to heal the felguard or the void
    and keep them alive with some hots or are they dead within
    the blink of an eye?

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    I don't know about felguard, but I guess warlock pets would be about similar to hunter pets, so I will share my experience.

    I ran four hunters and a druid healer from 1 to 80, and they were a very fun a viable group. I cleared all instances on my way and then converted the group to PVP.

    Pets do fine on quest elite bosses and normal instances. As you guessed, heroics are not really an option, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asterix View Post
    I'm thinking about a druid (healer) + 4x warlock setup for farming
    the dailys and questing.

    Anyone got some experience in using the felguard as a tank?
    I'm not interested in doing heroics or even non-heroic instances...
    it's just about tanking an elite mob to complete the quest (like
    the 4 elite quests in dragonblight / wintergarde keep) or the arena
    quest in Zul'Drak or killing the elite mobs for the daily Qs in icecrown.

    I'd like to know if it's possible to heal the felguard or the void
    and keep them alive with some hots or are they dead within
    the blink of an eye?
    Oh yah. You can solo those quests with your felguard and no healer if you spec somewhat correctly in demonology (not hard to figure out where). The only problem I ever had was aggro, not him dying. Once and a while you'll need to aggro drop with void shatter or whatever it's called. Obviously you'll also need to DPS very very slowly. Easy to watch if you have an aggro addon like Omen. Let him build aggro and then MORE DOTS.

    A healer would be overkill imo. The whole problem was aggro, not sure how you can counter that with boxing.

    EDIT: Come to think of it, doesn't earth shield add aggro to the person it's cast on? That would help to have a shaman around as well as the bonuses from strength of earth, flametongue, healing stream, and windfury. Also the shaman could drop earth elementals to help.

    Second best choice would be a priest if reflective shield adds aggro to the person it's cast on.

    A pally would help with ret aura i guess.

    Druid is just a great combo with warlocks period, but I'm not sure how they could help with aggro control.

    No matter the choice, they'd be doing a whole lot of standing around tbqh.

    Finally, don't forget that your gear effects your felguards stats, so don't slack on your gear.
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    With a druid, I wouldn't worry about it at all. Aggro getting tight? Root and chill on the DPS for a sec. I also made use of Fear+Root for tough mobs {mobs aren't hitting/casting when feared, and root keeps em from bringing friends}.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khatovar View Post
    With a druid, I wouldn't worry about it at all. Aggro getting tight? Root and chill on the DPS for a sec. I also made use of Fear+Root for tough mobs {mobs aren't hitting/casting when feared, and root keeps em from bringing friends}.
    When I solo leveled my lock, I found that most of the group quest mobs and such were immune to fear. If they were not they would have been laughably easy. Anything that can be feared is a joke for a warlock to kill. Though for the mobs that are vulnerable, root is a great idea.

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    If I was going to try this I would go for voidwalkers on all the warlocks.

    Run with omen - and use the warlocks soul shatter a decent margin before they pull aggro.
    I would have manual cast of the voidwalkers taunt on round robin so that if you do pull aggro you can always taunt the elite back (might even work to move the elite on to a full health voidy so the first one can be healed up).

    I'd probably try this as affliction and let the dots eat away so there would be less burst aggro gain.
    I'd make sure I had points in demonology for the demonic brutatily talent for improved taunt.
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    If you put a couple of talent points into Health Funnel, you can keep a Felguard alive through so many quests.
    My warlock was able to solo current level - 5 player group quests with this method.

    With five warlocks, or four and a druid, this would be very simple.

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    With the way soul shards generate now, you can keep a non-demonology-spec voidwalker alive effectively forever on most elites. Magic-casting elites are a bit tougher but it's not that bad. I solo'd Sarathstra at 74(or was it 76?) on my solo affliction-spec lock while leveling, and was never in any danger of either dying or running out of mana. Just put a couple points into improved health funnel and the voidwalker taunt/aggro one and you'll be set.
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    If you don't plan on doing any heroics 4 felguards would be overkill on any world elite. Coupled with an AOE healer of some type and they are a walking death squad. That doesn't even include the warlock yet. Toss a couple dots and a couple shadowbolts and your set. Much like hunters they excel at world PVE.. lol..

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    What advantage is there to not have a tank if you want to do PVE? Even doing normal instances, you'll have a huge headache on your hand and be doing far less DPS than if you just plain tanked stuff with three DPS and a healer.

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