Keymaps Legal?

[Meshuggenah]

Seems to me that Blizzard's anti-"bot" policy is more geared towards AFK playing.

Somebody made a ticket about me in a BG (finally!) not long ago. A GM turned up and the conversation went something like:

GM - "Hello, may I speak with you a moment?".
Me - "Sure"
GM - "Was just checking you're there. Have a nice day!"

I'm sure that I'm not the only one who makes "creative" use of the toggle function on the G15 keyboard to prevent chronic RSI. Is this technically against the rules? Probably. Have I ever been banned or even questioned because of activities like this in over 9(?) years of boxing MMO's? Of course not. As long as you're at your keyboard, not "hacking" and your credit card is valid, Dev's simply don't care.

The "Botting/Macroing/Hacking" mentions in the ToS are blatantly designed to prohibit very specific types of behavior. The reason boxing and botting are mentioned so frequently in the same context is because the people doing the mentioning have an agenda.

[Ualaa]

There are probably a lot of things which are technically against the rules.
I agree, if you're at the keyboard and able to respond, you're probably going to be ok.

Some of the things you can do with a G15 could potentially be an issue.
My roommate uses it to press 1, wait 1.5 seconds, press 2, wait 1.5 seconds and press 3.
Which is basically dots on a warlock and then wand attacks.

I cannot see keymaps as being an issue.
You are pressing a single key, which does not loop or repeat itself.
Each of your clients is getting a single input from this key press.
It doesn't make a difference if the keystroke is A or Shift A, either can be keybound within wow.
One physical input, and one response (even if its across multiple clients).

[daviddoran]

Some of the things you can do with a G15 could potentially be an issue.
My roommate uses it to press 1, wait 1.5 seconds, press 2, wait 1.5 seconds and press 3.
Which is basically dots on a warlock and then wand attacks.
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This is a perfect example of how to get banned using macros on a G15. If he is pushing one button, and the keyboard pushes 3 buttons, that is the very definition of automation.

The overall argument is semantics, whether or not its "key presses" (including modifiers) or "actions". I think multiple keys typed into the game are fine, as long as it follows the rules of the in game macro system

[lans83]

do what some of us do, don't use keymaps. I don't, all i use is keybroadcasting with keyclone. all keys are bound the same on all clients, aside from a couple like my arrowkeys. I hit 1, 2, 3, or 4, it presses whatever is set on those keys on my slaves. makes it easier to remember what key will hit what if you do it this way too.

[Jubber]

I believe the GM best describes this with his quote

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...98741&sid=1#13

The lever can be attached to as many levers as you want it to be as long as the result is 1 action. As long as you have to continue to press the button to get more actions to take place it doesn't matter how many levers its actually attached too.
So my 1 key can correspond to any number of keys as long as I need to press it each time to initiate something. This is also similiar to /click ingame as well. You can make a macro to /click as many buttons on your UI as you want. You can set it up to click all the spells in your spellbook and it will only invoke 1 action on the GCD. Things off the GCD don't apply as they share different rules.

So 1 key =/= 1 key per blizzard. It's more along the lines of 1key=1action.

Edit: doh. I really take too long to type. Everything I said pretty much was already said.. lol.

[Ughmahedhurtz]

I believe the GM best describes this with his quote

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...98741&sid=1#13

The lever can be attached to as many levers as you want it to be as long as the result is 1 action. As long as you have to continue to press the button to get more actions to take place it doesn't matter how many levers its actually attached too.
So my 1 key can correspond to any number of keys as long as I need to press it each time to initiate something. This is also similiar to /click ingame as well. You can make a macro to /click as many buttons on your UI as you want. You can set it up to click all the spells in your spellbook and it will only invoke 1 action on the GCD. Things off the GCD don't apply as they share different rules.

So 1 key =/= 1 key per blizzard. It's more along the lines of 1key=1action.

Edit: doh. I really take too long to type. Everything I said pretty much was already said.. lol.

Slowpoke! :P

[Jubber]

Slowpoke! :P

Slow and stead wins the race. Errrrr... Wait a minute...Doh!

[Kang]

I've been reading up on the legality of multiboxing(the GM Conversations wiki) and the fine line people walk to pursue it when i came across:

"Multiple key presses/uses of abilities from a single command, spoken or typed? Not okay."

Isn't that exacly what keymapping does?
For example when you set up a FTL you make is so when you push the button <1> on your keyboard, character one recieves keypress <1>, then keyclone sends <Shift+1> to your second character. Isn't pressing one key and having a 3rd party software sending two keys to the game illegal ?

Shift, crtl, alt are all modifiers. They are designed to give a user more "keys" per keyboard. Think shift+z = Z (cap zee). In your scenario shift+1 = !. You are in fact pressing the "!" key. Same goes for crtl and alt or any combination of the three. Does that help ease your mind young padawan?

[Ualaa]

Blizzard doesn't care if the input is A, Shift A, Control A, Alt A, Alt+Shift (but not Control) A etc.
All that matters is one press = one action.

All of the FTL macro's or keymaps, can be accomplished in game.
If you can do it, with an in-game macro, and one press of a key or combination of keys results in one action, you're fine.

[Arckon]

I figure we can conclude this thread with Ughmahedhurtz quote and link from a "Blizzard Poster" that

'safe' multi-boxing commands are one button press = one action per character.

-Malkorix

Thanks for everyone's input!

Edit: Now how do i close the thread?