Farming Honor

[gmbattletech]

Where do u turn in Stonekeeper shards for honor at

[Stealthy]

Completing all 4 WG combat quests in a single battle and then doing the gathering quest will earn you 20K honor (including the honor for winning a battle). However this can be kinda difficult to do, since it requires a defensive victory (WG favours attacking sides), depending on population balance of course.

Most battles however you should be able to get 3/4 combat quests done, and then the gathering quest afterward - that will give you 16K honor...which is a pretty good reward for 30 minutes time invested.

Will farming heroics when your faction controls WG get you honor faster than doing BG's? No.

You need 30 shards to get a 2K honor token. Since each heroic boss drops 4 tokens, thats 8 bosses you need to drop to get enough shards. Running back to back BG's will earn honor faster.

However, looking at the bigger picture - running heroics when your faction controls WG is a very efficient use of your time since you are effectively earning both badges and honor at the same time.

On my server, WG usually changes hands each battle, so if we control WG, I run heroics. If we don't control WG I use that time to farm dailies instead. I find this gives me a steady income of gold, badges and honor.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
S.

[Bettysue]

When your faction controls WG, you get stone keeper shards. 30 stone keepers shards = 2000 honor. Most dungeons can be done in about 30 mins, which is around 3-3500 honor per hour.

Bosses in heroics drop 2 shards per kill, and majority of the heroics have 5 or fewer bosses, so going with the 10 per 30min rule, it would take you ~2 hours with travel time to get to 3 instances to get 2k honor, netting you approximately 1k/hr...aka a pretty poor rate for honor.

They are a nice way to pad a couple points to grab a new piece "today instead of tomorrow" type thing, but instances aren't really a viable way to "farm" honor. Especially considering every2.5 hours you'd have to go win WG again just to continue farming.

[SideWays]

Bosses in heroics drop 2 shards per kill, and majority of the heroics have 5 or fewer bosses, so going with the 10 per 30min rule, it would take you ~2 hours with travel time to get to 3 instances to get 2k honor, netting you approximately 1k/hr...aka a pretty poor rate for honor.

They are a nice way to pad a couple points to grab a new piece "today instead of tomorrow" type thing, but instances aren't really a viable way to "farm" honor. Especially considering every2.5 hours you'd have to go win WG again just to continue farming.

Bosses in heroics drop 4 shards per kill, bosses in non heroics 3 (atleast the higher lvl ones).. I can complete Gundrak in 20 mins which means I get 5x4 shards in 20 mins => 1shard/min.

You can make 4k honor in 1h this way.. Not that much but its rly good if you are gearing up your team for PvE too..

Edit: Well I should have read Stealthy's post before posting -.-

[Fuzzyboy]

Bosses in heroics drop 2 shards per kill, and majority of the heroics have 5 or fewer bosses, so going with the 10 per 30min rule, it would take you ~2 hours with travel time to get to 3 instances to get 2k honor, netting you approximately 1k/hr...aka a pretty poor rate for honor.

They are a nice way to pad a couple points to grab a new piece "today instead of tomorrow" type thing, but instances aren't really a viable way to "farm" honor. Especially considering every2.5 hours you'd have to go win WG again just to continue farming.

Like SW says, heroic bosses drop 4 shards, not two. And it's not a matter of me winning WG in order to farm, but obviously just running heroics when your faction has WG and doing other stuff when they don't :-)

Stealthy has a good point about effiency, especially until you've ran out of stuff to spend emblems on. All in all, I think they WG when dailies are up, heroics when WG belongs to your faction and dailies/AV when it doesn't is a good route. Only problem for me is that im at about 55k honor due to honor tokens, and I have no plans to spend them until next season, so shards and WG commendations are the only real way to go for me atm.

[Bettysue]

Like SW says, heroic bosses drop 4 shards, not two. And it's not a matter of me winning WG in order to farm, but obviously just running heroics when your faction has WG and doing other stuff when they don't :-)

Stealthy has a good point about effiency, especially until you've ran out of stuff to spend emblems on. All in all, I think they WG when dailies are up, heroics when WG belongs to your faction and dailies/AV when it doesn't is a good route. Only problem for me is that im at about 55k honor due to honor tokens, and I have no plans to spend them until next season, so shards and WG commendations are the only real way to go for me atm.

Ya my fault heroic bosses do indeed drop 4, I still wouldn't call it the best farming method but for a slow night in BG's it could help quite a bit I suppose.

[Altsoba]

When your faction controls WG, you get stone keeper shards. 30 stone keepers shards = 2000 honor. Most dungeons can be done in about 30 mins, which is around 3-3500 honor per hour.

For that, you have to make 45 shards/h, around 10-12 heroic bosses I guess. If you take into account that you can only do that specific heroic once per day and that you have to travel from one heroic to another, it might not be worth it.

I currently do a bit over 4.2k honor/h in AV, Horde Side. I have around 80% win ratio. I think a multiboxer with pvp gear on one of the sides can switch the balance of that BG.

I have a macro to spam in AV in order to try make Horde play as AV should be played, meaning make a stand at Galva with the multiboxer plus 5-8 more ppl, whatever the outcome, that same group stay on tower recovery. It works most of the time and if you chain BGs you start getting a lot of people on your side and it results in a lot of 2.5k+ wins.
It's even better if you bring along a few friends with you or at least your arena healer.

To answer you - AV is in my opinion and experience better for honor farming

[Fuzzyboy]

For that, you have to make 45 shards/h, around 10-12 heroic bosses I guess. If you take into account that you can only do that specific heroic once per day and that you have to travel from one heroic to another, it might not be worth it.

I currently do a bit over 4.2k honor/h in AV, Horde Side. I have around 80% win ratio. I think a multiboxer with pvp gear on one of the sides can switch the balance of that BG.

I have a macro to spam in AV in order to try make Horde play as AV should be played, meaning make a stand at Galva with the multiboxer plus 5-8 more ppl, whatever the outcome, that same group stay on tower recovery. It works most of the time and if you chain BGs you start getting a lot of people on your side and it results in a lot of 2.5k+ wins.
It's even better if you bring along a few friends with you or at least your arena healer.

To answer you - AV is in my opinion and experience better for honor farming

Some battlegroups have really sucky AV win percentage though - I'm not sure on what mine is, but if you win 80%, that means alliance side on your realm win 20% - i can't imagine what sucky honor/hr they must have in AV :-)

[Altsoba]

Some battlegroups have really sucky AV win percentage though - I'm not sure on what mine is, but if you win 80%, that means alliance side on your realm win 20% - i can't imagine what sucky honor/hr they must have in AV :-)

Nono not exactly, AV is sucky for Horde here too . It's just that having a multiboxer can really imo change things. Most of my friends just don't do any AVs at all because it really sucks (solo) and they have almost the opposite %.

I've done hundreds and hundreds of AVs, people start knowing me and playing it as I stated in my post. That helps a lot, a multiboxer cannot win alone oc . If you manage to keep those 5-8 around you in defense you win most of the time.
Even when it turns out really bad I cannot even count how many AVs I've won after losing all towers and defending our king with a few more people.

That strategy, defend Galva for a while (very important: defend like once and then just go to towers, leave it alone for them to kill), recover towers, kill anyone going south, defend southern graveyards and above all motivating those few players to stay with you all it does in fact is giving Horde time to "breathe". The terrain favors alliance so the strategy is gain time so our guys can go north, cap a couple of towers and kill the king.
If you see that alliance isn't moving fast as they usually do, you can move north and cap one DB tower (I'm able to cap it almost all the time as they don't get organized to defend it..., sometimes I even cap both).
Vanndar is killable with two marshalls up even without a tank. Just tell a healer to spam heal on ONE of your elementals, pop all 4. That, along with some more dpsers around (not many needed) and your huge burst drops their king in no time.

I never ever attack as a main strategy. People (other players) appreciate that, see that I play the game and are then willingly helping me defending.

[Bettysue]

Knight Dameron appears when the Alliance has control over WG Fortress
Stone Guard Mukar appears for the Horde when they have control.
Both are directly east of the main doors within the central courtyard.