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    Quote Originally Posted by Drommon View Post
    I agree I may have to move to another program such as InnerSpace. But I am trying not to have many 3rd party software or addons because they break from patch to patch. Also I believe keyclone is the only approved braodcaster (I could be wrong here) so I am a bit concerned about IS, ***********, ISboxer, HKN and any other programs that mimick hardware key cloneing. Anyway I find it fun to tinker with my interface and to write macros. The more I write the more understand. Anyway I could go on...

    Drommon
    (Emphasis mine)

    I'd like to clarify that KeyClone was "approved" by a GM well before any of it's current functionality was implemented. The version that received this blessing no longer functions at all and only the new version with lots of unblessed features functions. The other portion of your statement about other software that mimicks hardware key cloning is amusing, as that's exactly what all multicasters do.

    As a note about 3rd party software breaking patch to patch, most if not all of these applications are patch agnostic because they don't work within the game, they work outside of the game and it would take a major change in Windows API to break them.

    In my experience if you want mouse broadcasting you have three choices...

    KeyClone - Retail Product. Works but slow, not viable in intense combat. Actually drives mouse from screen to screen to send clicks.
    AHK - Free Beta Product. Works fairly reliably but wasn't 100% in the testing I did.
    InnerSpace - Retail Prodcut. Works, 100% accurate, reliable, fast. Able to setup "zones" of your screen that automatically turn on broadcasting for you (for click heals, etc) or bind a "broadcast next click" action to your AE spell hotkey so it works as flawlessly as you can possibly imagine.
    GCP - Retail Product. I haven't tested this but believe it can do it as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zanthor View Post
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    In my experience if you want mouse broadcasting you have three choices...

    KeyClone - Retail Product. Works but slow, not viable in intense combat. Actually drives mouse from screen to screen to send clicks.
    AHK - Free Beta Product. Works fairly reliably but wasn't 100% in the testing I did.
    InnerSpace - Retail Prodcut. Works, 100% accurate, reliable, fast. Able to setup "zones" of your screen that automatically turn on broadcasting for you (for click heals, etc) or bind a "broadcast next click" action to your AE spell hotkey so it works as flawlessly as you can possibly imagine.
    GCP - Retail Product. I haven't tested this but believe it can do it as well.
    I think zanthor means HKN not AHK
    But other than that I would second his opinion.
    My personal rating for Mousecasting would be: IS > HKN > Keyclone
    And if it would only be for mouse-broadcastin and PiP-Switching (and I wouldn't love HKN for other features) I would switch form HKN to IS....
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    for some reason, when i start to cast an aoe, the target circle is off the screen on my alt screens. When i turn on mouse broadcasting, the circle is not where the mouse pointer is. I have to STILL go to each screen and move the circle to the spot. ( keyclone btw) So the target circle is NOT following the mouse clcik box on the alt screens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyonheart View Post
    for some reason, when i start to cast an aoe, the target circle is off the screen on my alt screens. When i turn on mouse broadcasting, the circle is not where the mouse pointer is. I have to STILL go to each screen and move the circle to the spot. ( keyclone btw) So the target circle is NOT following the mouse clcik box on the alt screens.

    Pretty sure with Keyclone, the mouse is where it was last positioned, when that window was active/hot.
    You could go to each window in turn, position the mouse in the middle of the screen, and then PiP swap via keyboard hotkey.
    It should fix this issue.

    Keyclone is not a very reliable mouse broadcasting option - there are better options.
    It is the easiest keyboard broadcaster to set up.
    Well other programs have wizards too, so I have to qualify that statement.
    With Keyclone, we run the wizard and it runs as expected - press a key and it is broadcast.
    With IS, we run the wizard, which has a lot more options (more powerful software), but Keymaps vs Repeating takes a bit of time to understand, and advanced features like clickboxer or repeater regions require additional reading.
    I have no experience with others boxing software, so cannot comment beyond these two.

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    I tried ISboxer today ( i used it for EQ2 ) but I'm not sure if it was conflicting with my addons or what. I had many issues, broadcasting was screwy, my toggle to turn repeater on and off would not work for example. And my alt screens were all messed up graphically ( blurry text and such )

    I used the wizard at first and then used the guide to do it all manually, neither ever worked right for me. I will get back at it when i have more time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyonheart View Post
    I tried ISboxer today ( i used it for EQ2 ) but I'm not sure if it was conflicting with my addons or what. I had many issues, broadcasting was screwy, my toggle to turn repeater on and off would not work for example. And my alt screens were all messed up graphically ( blurry text and such )

    I used the wizard at first and then used the guide to do it all manually, neither ever worked right for me. I will get back at it when i have more time.

    I'm not overly familiar with InnerSpace with EQ2.
    With warcraft, it seems to run fine.

    I can give a basic idea of how ISBoxer is supposed to work.
    And you might get something from that.

    I know there are a few options, which you need to check if you're running EQ2 or LotR Online.
    When you go through the wizard, ensure those options are checked.

    If you go into ISBoxer Toolkit.
    On the top, navigate to Keymaps, open that menu and click on Control Keymaps.
    On the left, open them up and select "Activate Keymaps".
    Ensure your hotkey is whatever you think it is.
    On the left, click on the + to expand your options.
    Step 1 should turn General Key Map On for All.
    And FTL DPS on for all.
    By default it gives a Popup Text message.
    I've modified mine to display quite a bit longer, just so I know if something is on or off.
    I actually changed my hotkey to M3 (on a G15 keyboard).
    And then added the Light Action (M3 on) as a visual for Keymaps on.
    So if I press the M3 key, it activates Keymaps and turns the M3 light on.
    For Step 2, you want the reverse.

    In addition to Keymaps, you also want to verify Repeater is set as you like it to be.
    I Right clicked on it, and selected Make Copy.
    Then renamed one for Keyboard Repeater and the other for Mouse Repeater.
    Basically went in and put Keyboard on M1 and Mouse on M2.
    Then edited so each would only affect Keyboard and not Mouse or Mouse and not Keyboard respectively.

    But however you set them up, you want to verify the Hotkey is what you think it is.
    And that the action is turning on or off your keymaps.
    Adjusting the duration of the Popup Text really helps.
    Once its working as you want, you can reduce the timer if you like.

    The default state of play, will be Keymaps On, but Repeater (or both Repeaters if you separate Keyboard and Mouse) off.
    With Repeater off, anything on a keymap will do something.
    But only things on keymaps do things.
    If you want to broadcast everything you type, I'd turn off Keymaps.
    Because, a keymap is a specific action for a given key, which takes precedence over general repeater options.

    I'm not an expert on the software in general.
    Pretty new to it in fact.

    If this is not a help for you, your configuration will be the best way to help.
    You'll want to Right Click on ISBoxer in the top.
    Select "Copy ISBoxer Toolkit Profile to Clipboard".
    Then go to www.pastebin.com, and right click and paste there.
    You'll want to have a username, and check "remember me so I can delete my post".
    I'd probably save it for a month, forever is too long and a day too short.
    Also go to highlight text at the top.
    Enter the name(s) of your accounts.
    And just edit them to Account A instead of the actual account name.
    Repeat for the other accounts. Half of your account security is guessing the username.

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