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    Quote Originally Posted by Ualaa View Post
    Next you want to pick a Keyclone hotkey for AoE clicks.
    I believe the option is called, send next click, or something very similar.
    is there anyone who could tell me exactly what its named? cant find it

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    This is the method I use, I'm not sure if anyone else does the same.

    I AoE target by first increasing the max camera distance so that, when you're viewing your characters directly from above, you can "see" the ground at maximum ground-target range. I don't recall the exact number, but you can tweak it by typing ;
    /script SetCVar("cameraDistanceMax",30)
    Replace the "30" with whatever number suits your purpose. You can add this macro into something like your /follow command, or your party invite hotkey to enable this max zoom distance by default. The script doesn't actually change the camera view at all to begin with. It increases the amount you can zoom out, but there is no noticable difference unless you then actively zoom out.

    Next, you need to make two hotkeys. First, find a comfortable standard viewing angle/distance and save that as your default view by typing "/script SaveView(2)", without quotation marks. You can use this saved view to quickly switch back to a more comfortable viewing angle after you've cast your spell. Second, move the camera directly above your character's head and zoom out to max distance, then save this camera view by typing "/script SaveView(3)".

    You can then create a macro for your chosen AoE spell and add the following line - "/script SetView(3); SetView(3)".

    Ie:
    /cast hurricane
    /script SetView(3); SetView(3)
    Then use any of the software boxing tools available to broadcast your subsequent click. Because all of your alts have the same camera distance, the same camera angle and should be facing the same direction, AoE targeting is generally quite accurate. Obviously, if your characters aren't properly stacked or have been feared and are in different locations, it won't be perfect.

    PS,

    I'm at work at the moment and don't have access to my WoW macros, so this is all from memory. Some of the scripts might not be spot on, but you should be able to google the camera API scripts if I got them wrong.
    Last edited by Meshuggenah : 10-29-2009 at 10:31 AM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazibaz View Post
    is there anyone who could tell me exactly what its named? cant find it

    Click Setup.
    General Tab.

    pass-mouse-click-hotkey
    Pick the hotkey you want to use.
    Check one-click then off.

    Click Ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ualaa View Post
    Click Setup.
    General Tab.

    pass-mouse-click-hotkey
    Pick the hotkey you want to use.
    Check one-click then off.

    Click Ok.
    thanks alot mate

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    Honestly, the easiest answer is to move to either HKN or IS.
    Either program has very strong mouse broadcasting.

    I've never used HKN, but have seen a lot of posters mention using it specifically for the broadcasting.

    With InnerSpace, you can set any given hotkey to activate mouse broadcasting for the next click.
    On my druid team, any one of them can press 4, and I'll have a mouse circle on every screen.
    Each screen is rendered at full size, even if the slaves are scaled downwards.
    Even though the AoE circles aren't exactly the same (due to different toon positions from follow etc), they're close enough for AoE.
    Similarly, I can press my 5 key for Hurricane.

    Or I can turn on complete mouse broadcasting (called mouse repeater), and click on macro's such as my daily macro key.
    With Keyclone, I'd have all toons type "/use Rod of Siphoning".
    With IS, I turn on mouse broadcasting and click the action bar button, which is the same position on each toon.

    I can click portals and have each toon portal to SW from Dalaran at once.
    It is accurate enough to respec 4 shammies at once (pick talents via mouse broadcasting).

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    I agree I may have to move to another program such as InnerSpace. But I am trying not to have many 3rd party software or addons because they break from patch to patch. Also I believe keyclone is the only approved braodcaster (I could be wrong here) so I am a bit concerned about IS, ***********, ISboxer, HKN and any other programs that mimick hardware key cloneing. Anyway I find it fun to tinker with my interface and to write macros. The more I write the more understand. Anyway I could go on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drommon View Post
    I agree I may have to move to another program such as InnerSpace. But I am trying not to have many 3rd party software or addons because they break from patch to patch. Also I believe keyclone is the only approved braodcaster (I could be wrong here) so I am a bit concerned about IS, ***********, ISboxer, HKN and any other programs that mimick hardware key cloneing. Anyway I find it fun to tinker with my interface and to write macros. The more I write the more understand. Anyway I could go on...

    Drommon
    (Emphasis mine)

    I'd like to clarify that KeyClone was "approved" by a GM well before any of it's current functionality was implemented. The version that received this blessing no longer functions at all and only the new version with lots of unblessed features functions. The other portion of your statement about other software that mimicks hardware key cloning is amusing, as that's exactly what all multicasters do.

    As a note about 3rd party software breaking patch to patch, most if not all of these applications are patch agnostic because they don't work within the game, they work outside of the game and it would take a major change in Windows API to break them.

    In my experience if you want mouse broadcasting you have three choices...

    KeyClone - Retail Product. Works but slow, not viable in intense combat. Actually drives mouse from screen to screen to send clicks.
    AHK - Free Beta Product. Works fairly reliably but wasn't 100% in the testing I did.
    InnerSpace - Retail Prodcut. Works, 100% accurate, reliable, fast. Able to setup "zones" of your screen that automatically turn on broadcasting for you (for click heals, etc) or bind a "broadcast next click" action to your AE spell hotkey so it works as flawlessly as you can possibly imagine.
    GCP - Retail Product. I haven't tested this but believe it can do it as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zanthor View Post
    (Emphasis mine)
    In my experience if you want mouse broadcasting you have three choices...

    KeyClone - Retail Product. Works but slow, not viable in intense combat. Actually drives mouse from screen to screen to send clicks.
    AHK - Free Beta Product. Works fairly reliably but wasn't 100% in the testing I did.
    InnerSpace - Retail Prodcut. Works, 100% accurate, reliable, fast. Able to setup "zones" of your screen that automatically turn on broadcasting for you (for click heals, etc) or bind a "broadcast next click" action to your AE spell hotkey so it works as flawlessly as you can possibly imagine.
    GCP - Retail Product. I haven't tested this but believe it can do it as well.
    I think zanthor means HKN not AHK
    But other than that I would second his opinion.
    My personal rating for Mousecasting would be: IS > HKN > Keyclone
    And if it would only be for mouse-broadcastin and PiP-Switching (and I wouldn't love HKN for other features) I would switch form HKN to IS....
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    for some reason, when i start to cast an aoe, the target circle is off the screen on my alt screens. When i turn on mouse broadcasting, the circle is not where the mouse pointer is. I have to STILL go to each screen and move the circle to the spot. ( keyclone btw) So the target circle is NOT following the mouse clcik box on the alt screens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyonheart View Post
    for some reason, when i start to cast an aoe, the target circle is off the screen on my alt screens. When i turn on mouse broadcasting, the circle is not where the mouse pointer is. I have to STILL go to each screen and move the circle to the spot. ( keyclone btw) So the target circle is NOT following the mouse clcik box on the alt screens.

    Pretty sure with Keyclone, the mouse is where it was last positioned, when that window was active/hot.
    You could go to each window in turn, position the mouse in the middle of the screen, and then PiP swap via keyboard hotkey.
    It should fix this issue.

    Keyclone is not a very reliable mouse broadcasting option - there are better options.
    It is the easiest keyboard broadcaster to set up.
    Well other programs have wizards too, so I have to qualify that statement.
    With Keyclone, we run the wizard and it runs as expected - press a key and it is broadcast.
    With IS, we run the wizard, which has a lot more options (more powerful software), but Keymaps vs Repeating takes a bit of time to understand, and advanced features like clickboxer or repeater regions require additional reading.
    I have no experience with others boxing software, so cannot comment beyond these two.

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