I ran my first instance... (Really messy..)

[Vociferate]

It is tough and I don't think a different healer is the answer.
You'll need to react no matter what the situation is.
I've probably healed most on a druid and wild growth is fantastic - but I also think a priest is very strong.
Prayer of mending with it's jumps to damaged players should help, and circle of healing.

- I think what you are doing is actually more difficult than 5 boxing.

With 5 boxing I have total control over all characters - I know my shaman are going to wait if i need aggro.
I know they are going to be targetting the character my tank is concentrating on (apart from when I forgot to put TAB on the do-not-pass list ) I know that I can whack their threat reduction ability too.

WIth pugs that goes completely out the window. If in a pug I would prioritise. Tank, Healer, dps that know what they are doing, muppet that pulls aggro/ causes problems last.

It sounds like you've got the tanking well under control, so I would probably suggest going on a few pugs as just a healer. The worse pugs the better

See what the bad things are - and what works to react to them. Then try and plan for being able to do that based on a macro.

e.g if an Idiot pulls aggro - do you target idiot, shield, renew, quick heal 90% of the time, in which case castsequence that.

Yeah, I should let the muppets die. But I still have my state of mind from raiding Sunwell (prenerf!) and being blamed if people die.

As far as roles go, I can do both very well solo. But together, and then worrying about pugs... Ugh!

I would be 5 boxing if I was back home with my PC. But I am on my laptop! :'(

The "Oh shit" button for [target=party2-5] is a good idea. I'll give that one a go.

IMO, driving with the tank is the easiest. The biggest thing I had to overcome was getting used to using keys to heal, even when I couldn't see what the healer was doing. Once you get familiar and see what you're able to easily heal through, it becomes trivial. I do the CoS gauntlet in 2 pulls now. Partly because my tank is well geared, partly because I've wiped on that enough to know I can't heal fast enough for 1 pull (wtb moar haste kkthks). So just remember it's a learning experience, you're already doing the best thing you can do, which is come here and see how others are doing it.

Are you tanking with a bear? I posted my tanking macro in Fur's mega macro thread if you need something thats spammable so you can focus on watching your HP, heals, or whatever else.

I'll take a look at your macro's now!

Cheers!

[Durzil]

Depends what you box with I drive with my tank and setup HKN to be able to mouseover heal from my tank's screen.

I"m pretty interested in how you do this.

[Fef]

Depends what you box with I drive with my tank and setup HKN to be able to mouseover heal from my tank's screen.

You just gave me a reason to (seriously this time) try HKN.

( .... tanking on the main windows while triggering mouseover heals ... yummy ... )

[Ualaa]

I'd imagine HKN would be similar.

You need somewhere where you have your toon names.
Vuhdo can do it as a single addon, but Healbot or Grid (with GridCustomLayouts) + Clique works fine too.
You want it alphabetical, so its the same on every screen.
You also want them to be positioned as close to exactly the same as possible.

With InnerSpace (ISBoxer Toolkit) you set up a mouse repeating region.
There's a hotkey you set to bring up the GUI in game, Zanthor's post suggested Alt Ctrl /.

Drag the repeater region so it covers the entire Grid frame.
Any click you make in this region will be sent to the client(s) of your choice.

Using Vuhdo, Open RDX, Clique etc, set what happens on a Left Click, Right Click, Middle Click, Alt + Left Click etc.

With InnerSpace, you can check KVM mode on the repeater GUI, so a click in the repeater region is broadcast but doesn't change targeting on the toon that does the click.

Once the region is set up, it basically turns mouse repeating on, but only when you're within that specific region. At the same time, it only sends the clicks (and modifiers) to the clients you have selected.

From my understanding, if you wanted multiple toons to be able to broadcast their clicks, you'd need to set up regions on each.

[Zamok]

I set up my F1-5 keys (disabling them on other toons) on my healer to cast heals on party members 1-5 with a cast sequence /cast hot /cast bigger heal. So basically 1 click of F3 to drop a hot on toon 3, if I hit it again it drops a big heal. If the party is taking ae damage I just rotate through F1-5 to give them all some hots. I have a full cast sequence on my F2 keys which is normally the tank being group leader which rotates through 4 heals (is a resto druid).

I use clique on my tank so if someone rips agro I middle click their toon in grid and it auto taunts on that person without changing target.

[Vociferate]

What is this "HKN"?

Oh and Clique sounds like great idea.

[Khatovar]

Here's a post with my script in it >clicky<

It's straight mouseover healing, no clicking, no mods outside of Pitbull to arrange the party frames {include self in party, list alphabetically}. Because of how it works, it's very modular. In fights where my tank takes a lot of damage and there's not a ton of AOE, I just swap my macros around. Or I can drop in LHW instead of Chain heal. I don't have to make any changes at all when I go from group to raid...my raid frames all sit in the designated area. And because it doesn't require me to click, it's fast. I just wave my little magic mouse over the frame and poof, all better.

[Durzil]

Here's a post with my script in it >clicky<

It's straight mouseover healing, no clicking, no mods outside of Pitbull to arrange the party frames {include self in party, list alphabetically}. Because of how it works, it's very modular. In fights where my tank takes a lot of damage and there's not a ton of AOE, I just swap my macros around. Or I can drop in LHW instead of Chain heal. I don't have to make any changes at all when I go from group to raid...my raid frames all sit in the designated area. And because it doesn't require me to click, it's fast. I just wave my little magic mouse over the frame and poof, all better.

Ty for posting this, I havn't used HKN just started boxing and tried keyclone on a recommendation of a in game friend who 5 boxes. I'll have to try it I was apprehensive at first of it tho becuse it seemed a lot more complicated.

[BobGnarly]

Long story short... I need tips on running a tank and healer.

I've done Tank+DPS or DPS+Healer, but never Tank+Healer.

I am running a druid and priest.


Difficulties:
Targeting other party members outside of my druid
Managing cooldowns properly
Staying calm?

I have most of my macros and keybinds setup for keeping my toons up. Add in others who can pull aggro, and such...

What do you do? H
How do you have your macros setup?
Targeting Keybinds?


Generally what do you do, when you have to control the whole instance? Making the adjustment from DPS variations to Tank and Healer, is killing me.

I don't run with other people in my group much, but I do have a mechanism that works pretty well

I use something like:

/cast [target=focustarget,help] [target=focus] lesser healing wave

for my main healing macro. Focus is my tank. If my tank is targetting a friendly unit, it will heal them. If not, it will heal the tank. The only problem with this macro is lag. When you change targets (as you will when somebody needs a heal), there is a small period of time until the server updates the other client(s) about that change. If you hit the button before that update (around 1/3-1/2 second in my experience), you will heal the tank instead. Unfortunately, I only tend to use this when somebody's in trouble, so time is a factor, but I've adapted to the lag and just have learned to wait a little bit after switches.