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  1. #11

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    Since before TBC came out I've been MT and Guildmaster on an account given to me by a friend. I multibox, I've had multiple petitions and dealings with the GMS, etc. No problems at all, yes, it's against the TOS, but honestly they would rather keep getting the $15 a month, don't be an idiot, dont download keyloggers, dont be a dick to people in game, etc etc.
    [> Sam I Am (80) <] [> Team Doublemint <][> Hexed (60) (retired) <]
    [> Innerspace & ISBoxer Toolkit <][> Boxing on Blackhand, Horde <]
    "Innerspace basically reinvented the software boxing world. If I was to do it over again, I'd probably go single PC + Innerspace/ISBoxer." - Fursphere

  2. #12

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    Quote Originally Posted by torelorm

    While you would probably get away with this, it is technically against the TOU and clearly stated as such.

    And the worst case is you get one or more accounts banned.
    No, it won't get the accounts banned. Nearly everything on this forum is technically against the TOU. We're talking risk. It is is minimal to non-existant in this case, providing my aforementioned parameters.

    -S

  3. #13

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    Hehe, and NOW I get the people saying don't worry about it.

    Oh well, I picked up 2xBattlechests on the way home from work, activated them and transferred the warrior from my wife's account. The transfer went through without a hitch so now I've got 5 bonified, in my name and indisputable accounts. The mage I didn't invest in, so no loss there. The warrior that I have 35 days played on is now secure and that's worth the money to me. Stupid that I should even have to feel like it was at risk in the first place but meh, I deal with stuff far more stupid at work every day.

    Thanks all!
    ~Elo of BlackHand (Alliance)
    (TBC Team) 1xPally, 4xShaman -> Elothyn(70), Eloshama(70), Eloshamb(70), Eloshamc(70), Eloshamd(70)
    (Wrath Team) 1xPally, 2x Shaman, 1xMage, 1xDruid -> Elothyn(74), Eloshama(74), Eloshamc(73), Elozaen(73), Elothune(73)
    (Alts) 1xPriest, 1xWarlock, 1xWarrior -> Elothin(70), Elozen(70), Elothan(70)

  4. #14

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    Quote Originally Posted by elo
    Hehe, and NOW I get the people saying don't worry about it.

    Oh well, I picked up 2xBattlechests on the way home from work, activated them and transferred the warrior from my wife's account. The transfer went through without a hitch so now I've got 5 bonified, in my name and indisputable accounts. The mage I didn't invest in, so no loss there. The warrior that I have 35 days played on is now secure and that's worth the money to me. Stupid that I should even have to feel like it was at risk in the first place but meh, I deal with stuff far more stupid at work every day.

    Thanks all!
    Interesting. It must be that the last names, address, billing all match so it went through.

    Anyway, congrats on securing your warrior!
    Whisperwind - US - Alliance
    5x Human Death Knights - all level 120
    1x Human Paladin for LFD: 120
    Bleeding Hollow - US - Horde - [On the Bench currently]

    5x Orc Death Knights - 1 x 90 + 4 x 60s
    1x Blood Elf Paladin: Level 67 - Healer for 5 man LFD

  5. #15

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suribusi
    Quote Originally Posted by torelorm

    While you would probably get away with this, it is technically against the TOU and clearly stated as such.

    And the worst case is you get one or more accounts banned.
    No, it won't get the accounts banned. Nearly everything on this forum is technically against the TOU. We're talking risk. It is is minimal to non-existant in this case, providing my aforementioned parameters.

    -S
    wrong wrong wrong wrong and wrong. what we are doing is NOT against the TOS. using accounts that are not yours IS against the TOS
    http://pewpewsquad.blogspot.com/ http://www.stage6.com/user/pewpewss/videos/
    Team 1- 5 shamans <The PewPew Squad> Team2 - <Y o u Lo se> 70 druid, 70 shaman, 1 paladin, 24 mage, 1 mage
    Team 1 -> <1--10--20--30--40--44--50--60--70>

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    Damn this is really bad news to me, I never considered that 2 of my accounts are in different names to mine. One was my ex gf and one was a friend who quit, never thought about that when I started boxing. Now im in a dilemma because Ive been 5 boxing and loving it, but I have multiple 70's on the accounts not in my name. Only solution would be buying 2 more boxes and paying for 2 more subs. 7 subs a month tho is a bit heavy -.-

  7. #17

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    According to the TOS using game mechanics in a way that give you an advantage over other players is against the TOS. Hence, playing a 5 box gives you a clear advantage over other players, and if blizzard decides, it can be against the TOS.

    The same goes doubly for software solutions - using Keyclone, AHK, etc etc can be considered against the TOS just because some blizzard minion has a raggy day.
    [> Sam I Am (80) <] [> Team Doublemint <][> Hexed (60) (retired) <]
    [> Innerspace & ISBoxer Toolkit <][> Boxing on Blackhand, Horde <]
    "Innerspace basically reinvented the software boxing world. If I was to do it over again, I'd probably go single PC + Innerspace/ISBoxer." - Fursphere

  8. #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by zanthor
    According to the TOS using game mechanics in a way that give you an advantage over other players is against the TOS. Hence, playing a 5 box gives you a clear advantage over other players, and if blizzard decides, it can be against the TOS.

    The same goes doubly for software solutions - using Keyclone, AHK, etc etc can be considered against the TOS just because some blizzard minion has a raggy day.
    uh no because you dont get something another character doesnt when you multibox, its all the same classes and areas you are simply doing more of it. If that were the case than all addons would be a bannable offense because it gives another player an advantage over another.
    http://pewpewsquad.blogspot.com/ http://www.stage6.com/user/pewpewss/videos/
    Team 1- 5 shamans <The PewPew Squad> Team2 - <Y o u Lo se> 70 druid, 70 shaman, 1 paladin, 24 mage, 1 mage
    Team 1 -> <1--10--20--30--40--44--50--60--70>

  9. #19

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    Quote Originally Posted by zanthor
    According to the TOS using game mechanics in a way that give you an advantage over other players is against the TOS. Hence, playing a 5 box gives you a clear advantage over other players, and if blizzard decides, it can be against the TOS.
    If that was the case then Vent should also be against TOS as 5 people on it clearly have an advantage playing against team that's not using it.

    There's tons of things that give you an 'advantage'.. mods/vent/intelligent players... it doesn't mean that you're breaking TOS, just means you know how to play properly.

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    To settle the whole "it's against the rules" argument:

    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...86742188&sid=1

    Vrakthis (or his apprentice, rather):
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    Q u o t e:
    First, one of the main things on a 5v5 game, is your team coordination, how good your team play together.

    Fighting this team, 4 games, we lost 3. This guy, control 4 shamans, at once, prob with 4 computers.

    Banable? Prob not, but if not, its a flaw. And. should be fixed asap.
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    It's easy to get frustrated in the arenas, Warlike, and I can understand your concerns. Still, "multi-boxing" is not currently a violation of our Terms of Use. I refer you to the following thread from our CS Forum Information Haven! sticky:

    Botting vs. Playing Multiple Accounts Simultaneously
    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...geNo=1&sid=1#9

    That said, if you truly feel that this kind of activity is not in the spirit of World of Warcraft, I encourage you to avail yourself of the resources that is our Suggestion forum. Our Development Staff does read it, and it's your best means to communicate your concerns directly.

    And, in the link in that post, this post by Vrakthis:

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    Q u o t e:
    Im sorry but that isn't accurate, if Blizz would investigate instead of assuming they could find a rule break in there.

    That is a paid service, the person running those characters was paid to collect HPs for the owners of those Characters. I bet if Blizz investigated they would find all characters to have different payment info, different emails, different info all togother, so if one person is boxing those Characters, its account sharing... and that is against the rules.
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    I'll have to disagree with you there, Letum. Could someone use this technique to level up multiple characters for others? Probably.

    If they were investigated would we just go "oh they are multiboxing, they are Ok."? Absolutely not. We investigate each botting/powerleveling report we receive fully and believe it or not we actually do look at the simple stuff like account information. Not to mention we look at a great deal of other information in our investigations.

    There are a good many legitimate users who actually do own multiple accounts. Why? No idea, I have two myself and barely look at the other account but to each their own. Just because they are using a multiboxing technique does not mean they are powerleveling/sharing or engaging in any other nefarious deed.

    If you believe someone is violating our Terms of Use, report it and it will be investigated.
    And finally, the rules themselves:
    Ownership/Selling of the Account or Virtual Items.
    Blizzard does not recognize the transfer of Accounts. You may not purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, or offer to purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, and any such attempt shall be null and void.
    TBC/Wrath Multiboxer: Velath / Velani / Velathi / Velatti / Velavi / Velarie [Archimonde (US-PvP)]

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