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  1. #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by blast3r View Post
    Try the first boss in UP. That is the easiest boss I ever fought in heroics.

    Moorabi was a pain in the ass for me until I got geared a little better and learned how to interrupt his transformation. hammer of justice!

    Oh, and Congratulations!!!!!
    I got my face eaten off by the mobs on the way to her - the pulls, even with a sheep, are insane for healing. One on one, they're fine, but 3 at a time, I'm pounding the heal keys. I gave up (I was exhausted from a long day) at 2am last night, when the last pack got past my pally and one shotted the Lock, Mage and Priest, and took me and the druid down about 30 seconds later. Ugh. That was a horrific wipe, it happened so fast.

    Can you Shackle Undead them? I sheeped one, which held, but the three who got past just stomped me, and oneshotted my 3 before I could pick aggro up again.

  2. #12

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadzooks View Post
    I got my face eaten off by the mobs on the way to her - the pulls, even with a sheep, are insane for healing. One on one, they're fine, but 3 at a time, I'm pounding the heal keys. I gave up (I was exhausted from a long day) at 2am last night, when the last pack got past my pally and one shotted the Lock, Mage and Priest, and took me and the druid down about 30 seconds later. Ugh. That was a horrific wipe, it happened so fast.

    Can you Shackle Undead them? I sheeped one, which held, but the three who got past just stomped me, and oneshotted my 3 before I could pick aggro up again.
    whoa, you're having bigger problems than when i did that place first time with tank that had less than 21k hp.
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  3. #13

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niley View Post
    whoa, you're having bigger problems than when i did that place first time with tank that had less than 21k hp.
    Armory link?
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...aenor&n=Kiresa

    I have the Icebane pieces, but I went back to the tempered set for the defense.

    She's taking too much damage, I can't keep up on the heals a lot of the time - I took Moorabi down again, but wiped on Eck and the friggin mana wraiths or whatever they are later on, bad pull.

    I know my trinkets suck, and I need more strength, but I need that defense cap too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadzooks View Post
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...aenor&n=Kiresa

    I have the Icebane pieces, but I went back to the tempered set for the defense.

    She's taking too much damage, I can't keep up on the heals a lot of the time - I took Moorabi down again, but wiped on Eck and the friggin mana wraiths or whatever they are later on, bad pull.

    I know my trinkets suck, and I need more strength, but I need that defense cap too.
    This a game of inches take a look at protection_paladin_field_manual great source of information. Your gear needs a few tweeks.

    Gear wise your should be looking for anything that helps build defense don't worry about Crit or Hit (as long are your at the hit cap) Parry, Dodge, Block and Stamina are your tagets to build.

    You need to Glyph Divine Plea:
    Quote from protection_paladin_field_manual
    "Divine Plea: Since the Guarded by the Light talent allows you to keep Divine Plea active full-time as long as you're hitting something, this glyph effectively amounts to a flat 3% reduction to all incoming damage. This is probably the only glyph universally considered a "must-have" for tanking."

    Also take a look at the section on starter gear this will give you some pointers on gear you can get easily.

    Farm Normal ToC the gear in there is very nice, next find a few Heriocs boss you can take out for the Conquest badges you don't need the whole instance just farm a few bosses till you can gear up a little more.

    Move up to Heroic ToC even if you can't clear it just farm the first two bosses, Skip the second boss if you get the women she is tough.

    Like I said I was where you are just a few months ago most of the Heroics are pretty easy now after I geared up a bit http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...lakrond&n=Targ

  5. #15

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadzooks View Post
    I got my face eaten off by the mobs on the way to her - the pulls, even with a sheep, are insane for healing. One on one, they're fine, but 3 at a time, I'm pounding the heal keys. I gave up (I was exhausted from a long day) at 2am last night, when the last pack got past my pally and one shotted the Lock, Mage and Priest, and took me and the druid down about 30 seconds later. Ugh. That was a horrific wipe, it happened so fast.

    Can you Shackle Undead them? I sheeped one, which held, but the three who got past just stomped me, and oneshotted my 3 before I could pick aggro up again.
    I wasn't thinking about the trash. On my pallies I have 4 repentance where I can stun them for up to a minute. There is one type of mob you can stun but he wakes up and charges you. The worst ones are those that cast lightning.
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  6. #16

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    Yeah starting out is thought, but got to be patient and just work your butt off. My tank is decked out, not to Ulduar standards but got a bunch of Naxx gear I got like 31.1k Unbuffed, end up with 36.5k buffed. The priest has 19K mana 1800 SP still wearing 6 blues but can heal everything. Shaman got some ok gear I normally only see about 2500 dps out of them, cant really see much else since everything dies too fast.
    Daggerspine Alliance: Phoebus(Tank), Soozanuna(Heals/Tailor), Angakak (Enchanter), Wakantanaka(Herb/Alch), Znakharka, Jonhyone(JC), Marious(Other Tank/BS), Magnux(Enchanter), Coyolxhauqui(LW)

  7. #17

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    I looked over your pally. Here are some thoughts.

    -Glyphs, Get glyph of divine plea, make sure DP is always up when you're tanking. This helps a ton with mana and damage reduction.

    -Talents, mostly look ok, I would move around some points, but you rpropably dont have a lot of mana issues just yet since youre taking a lot of damage, when you reach around 29k hp, things will get a lot easier. Once youre at that point I would suggest something along my paladins talents: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-t...=Phean&group=1
    Divine sacrifice is amazing when it comes to aoe reduction, there is some changes coming to it next patch that for lower geared tanks should make it even better.


    • Divine Guardian: This talent no longer increases the amount of damage transferred to the paladin from Divine Sacrifice. Instead it causes all raid and party members to take 10/20% reduced damage while Divine Sacrifice is active.
    • Divine Sacrifice: Redesigned. The effect of Divine Sacrifice is now party-only and the maximum damage which can be transferred is now limited to 40% of the paladin’s health multiplied by the number of party members. In addition, the damage transferred to the paladin is now reduced by 50% before being applied to the paladin. Finally, the bug which allowed Divine Sacrifice to sometimes persist despite reaching its maximum damage has been fixed. Divine Sacrifice will now cancel as soon as its maximum damage value is exceeded in all cases.


    -Gear: This part here is just limited by how much gold you have(and please get rid of those bracers :/)
    here's a list of what you should have from crafted/rep gear, and will make heroics much much much easier(skipping pieces that you already have).


    Helm-Should be using 32 stam meta, stamina is your most desirable stat, and you only need 535 def for heroics

    Cloak- honored wyrmest gives you this: www.wowhead.com/?item=Cloak of Peaceful Resolutions

    Chest- You can try www.wowhead.com/?item=Breastplate of the White Knight, otherwise there is one from rep(forget which one),

    Bracers - crafted bracers are considered 2nd best in slot, they're decently cheap to make, get em. www.wowhead.com/?item=Saronite Swordbreakers

    Gloves - enchant them with 18 stam, this is a kit from leatherworking.I dont think there is too many boe tank gloves, if any.

    Belt - make this- orbs are so cheap right now, just do it www.wowhead.com/?item=Indestructible Plate Girdle

    Boots- Really good boots, also from cheap orbs, there is no upgrade to this from any badges or heroics(same goes for the belt above) www.wowhead.com/?item=Spiked Deathdealers

    Rings- www.wowhead.com/?item=Signet of the Earthshaker or www.wowhead.com/?item=Signet of the Accord , keep your titanium tank ring.

    Trinkets - pre 3.2 greatness card was best threat trinket.

    I also dont see you using extra sockets from BS profession.

    All this will make your tank a bit over geared for heroics, and take fun out of them :P But that's the goal isn't it?
    Last edited by Niley : 10-13-2009 at 03:28 AM
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    Excellent stuff, guys, many thanks. I'll be studying this very closely this week.

    This is what I get for never playing a tank, huh?

    I'm pretty sure I can farm Moorabi, and I'm looking for another I can farm. I'm going to go back to Nexus/HK and give those a shot. I need to figure how to get past the voids in the trash in DTK, too. Hate those.

    Money is no problem, I can farm dailies for a few days - I've been doing the dailies pattern posted elsewhere, it's easy money.

    Blacksmithing sockets. *smacks forehead*.

    ToC - you really think I'm geared for that? I guess I better figure out the jousting!

  9. #19

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadzooks View Post
    Excellent stuff, guys, many thanks. I'll be studying this very closely this week.

    I'm pretty sure I can farm Moorabi, and I'm looking for another I can farm. I'm going to go back to Nexus/HK and give those a shot. I need to figure how to get past the voids in the trash in DTK, too. Hate those.

    ToC - you really think I'm geared for that? I guess I better figure out the jousting!
    The voids in DTK are the hardest part of the instance, the trick is MOVE. You can't stand in the puddle.
    It is the little guy that casts it, and it will at random target your group, then they have to move. Put up
    Shadow Protection Aura it should help enough to get out of the puddle. Silence, interrupt what ever you can
    to prevent him from casting. If one of the groups has two in it fear / sheep one of them untill the first is dead.

    The second Mob in DTK you should skip tell you get geared up, you can walk past her along the far (left hand side as you enter the room) wall and not agro.

    As for normal ToC you will not know till you try. The first boss is easy once you get them unmounted. The second if you get Eadric the Pure is a snap, if you don't get Eadric exit and reset it.

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