Glyph of Stoneclaw totem

[Noids]

Out of interest I was wondering if those of you that have this totem on all their shammies use it in rotation? I realise that the totem has a long cooldown, but if you are losing the shield quickly, is it possible to cast it on rotation ala tremor? If so, we are potentially talking 16k in shield per 30 secs for the whole team which sounds pretty nice.

Cheers

[Otlecs]

From the way you've phrased it, I think you're mistakenly thinking that a single stoneclaw shields the whole team.

Use: Your Stoneclaw Totem also places a damage absorb shield on you, equal to 4 times the strength of the shield it places on your totems.

It's just for you and your own totem so there's no value in a rotation

[Menthu]

My opinion:

I used it for some months now and my conclusion is that is isn't worth a Major Glyph slot in Arena. Because of what reason? Because when drop the Stoneclaw Totem, it consumes the Tremor Totems. I could slap Tremor down again with Call of the Elements but then they all pulse at the same time which is bad. So I need to put it down with the old rotation, which takes about 2 seconds. In that time the 4000 damage shield is already consumed.

It is nice to have at the beginning of arena, but he, lets face it, with the proper gear/gems/professions you can nuke 1 down anyway.

Glyph of Shocking
Glyph of Lava
Glyph of Wrath

Those are THE Arena Glyph in my opinion and the ones that suited me the best.

I hope that I gave you a good view from my perspective.

Junglelove,

-Menthu

[asonimie]

Most of the top 5v5 shaman use it. It's not useless...

Argh. First off, I am the top shaman in 5v5, and the 2 of us boxers at 1900+ right now are not using it This was discussed long ago and here's the reason. If stoneclaw totem didn't eat a GCD, then it would be much more useful. However it does, and in boxer 5v5 it consistantly takes LESS than a second to take 5k aoe damage. So if you cast this, the problem is you just wasted 2 full seconds (1gcd+1 tremor recast) to shield yourself for less than a second, not to mention your tremors will no longer be staggered. That's essentially like standing there doing nothing for 1-1.5 secs. That time is much better spent rotating thunderstorm or healing.

And yes lightning bolt glyph is a raiding glyph for long duration rotations. Not gonna buy you any kills with it.

This is in my guide which is almost complete, but the best 3 glyphs are lava, shocking, and thunder... with TOW being a decent 4th option in place of shocking or thunder (shocking is a must for arena tho).

[Naysayer]

Argh. First off, I am the top shaman in 5v5, and the 2 of us boxers at 1900+ right now are not using it This was discussed long ago and here's the reason. If stoneclaw totem didn't eat a GCD, then it would be much more useful. However it does, and in boxer 5v5 it consistantly takes LESS than a second to take 5k aoe damage. So if you cast this, the problem is you just wasted 2 full seconds (1gcd+1 tremor recast) to shield yourself for less than a second, not to mention your tremors will no longer be staggered. That's essentially like standing there doing nothing for 1-1.5 secs. That time is much better spent rotating thunderstorm or healing.

And yes lightning bolt glyph is a raiding glyph for long duration rotations. Not gonna buy you any kills with it.

This is in my guide which is almost complete, but the best 3 glyphs are lava, shocking, and thunder... with TOW being a decent 4th option in place of shocking or thunder (shocking is a must for arena tho).

No you're not. The top 5v5 shaman plays on my server.

Stoneclaw helps you in matches that begin with a rushdown gib attempt. Gives you an advantage and dropping one of them immediately before they drop one of you, which is huge. Gives your healer some room to breathe. Don't tell me it's useless, that's ridiculous.

[Fat Tire]

No you're not. The top 5v5 shaman plays on my server.

Stoneclaw helps you in matches that begin with a rushdown gib attempt. Gives you an advantage and dropping one of them immediately before they drop one of you, which is huge. Gives your healer some room to breathe. Don't tell me it's useless, that's ridiculous.

Please link this boxer on your server that is currently higher rating than asonimie.

If your talking about shaman solo than yes you got a point, but only on a comp where the shaman would be the focus.

[Multibocks]

No you're not. The top 5v5 shaman plays on my server.

Stoneclaw helps you in matches that begin with a rushdown gib attempt. Gives you an advantage and dropping one of them immediately before they drop one of you, which is huge. Gives your healer some room to breathe. Don't tell me it's useless, that's ridiculous.

I believe he means top boxer shaman.

[Naysayer]

You don't have to lose tremor totem staggering while refreshing the shield either.

[heyaz]

You don't have to lose tremor totem staggering while refreshing the shield either.

How's that?

[Naysayer]

How's that?

Same way you stagger your tremors. Just add stoneclaws and empty comas in your macro accordingly on the shaman not casting tremor and you'll never be without a staggered tremor.