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    Quote Originally Posted by Naysayer View Post
    Well if they don't I'll be ecstatic. For the solo shaman this could be considered a huge pvp nerf slash pve buff, but stacked 5 shammy deep this will have a snowball effect of QQ.

    Also, why are we ok with this, yet as a community we cry about FOK's? Bias is lame.
    Not thinking before talking is lame.

    FOK:
    Highest aoe DMG
    AOE MS
    AOE POISON
    AOE SPELL INTERRUPT

    Nova:
    Aoe dmg.

    Thats why.
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    I can't wait to try 4*this aoe + 1 TS on melee... it's two GCDs and a lot of damage... Well maybe we don't even need rr on TS anymore and it'll be a LOT of damage.

    I don't think I'll miss the stun tbh. It's now that tauren shaman can make a good combo ^^

    Stomp - 4 times fire - stomp is gone - TS Kaboom!

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    Quote Originally Posted by asonimie View Post
    Not thinking before talking is lame.

    FOK:
    Highest aoe DMG
    AOE MS
    AOE POISON
    AOE SPELL INTERRUPT

    Nova:
    Aoe dmg.

    Thats why.
    FOK:
    30% reduction (nerfed) -No longer highest AOE DMG....
    AOE MS -still true if the poison actually gets applied...but still requires proper pvp Hit cap to achiev
    AOE POISON -same as above
    AOE SPELL INTERRUPT - stop crying its been nerfed as well... no more interrupt
    Last edited by Never Ending Pew Pew : 10-03-2009 at 01:06 PM

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    Just a wild guess here, but I think a few posters in this thread have rogues and are a little butthurt.
    Last edited by Fat Tire : 10-03-2009 at 01:18 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat Tire View Post
    Just a wild guess here, but I think a few posters in this thread have rogues and are a little butthurt.
    LOL, yes I have some Rogues, and not butthurt at all. Just pointing out some corrections since it was nerfed. Honestly I am happy shamans are getting this neat spell, I think it might help some teams really push their way further... yes it sucks that you guys lose the stun but hell an AOE like that every 3 seconds (glyphed and talented of course) is going to be quite nice.

    Ive been playing since beta... im used to the nerf bat...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naysayer View Post
    Maybe they do, maybe they don't, but there's no doubt there's a bunch of shaman groups in here who were butthurt about FOK rogues and would be A-Okay with being OP on their shaman.

    I guess kids need time to learn how to be fair about things.
    I am confused... Are you saying FOK in its previous form was not OP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fursphere View Post
    Now.. if they'll just get rid of the Blood Elf racial.. then we'll talk.
    Many a night have I dreamed of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naysayer View Post
    Before your only brain cell overheats, see if it can imagine fighting something that aoe's an average of 10k damage every 3 seconds while being able to round robin thunderstorm x4to5. Melee will be a joke for shaman boxers.

    They are essentially giving shaman the power of having Arcane Explosion and Blast Wave together. We're not squishy like fire/acane mages, and we can also heal.

    Almost OP as you are bias. Almost.

    Buuuuuut you're ok with that. NERF FOK THOUGH or you'll quit? roflmao...
    I think from an arena standpoint, a high rated one (my one brain cell got me there, wow you're a dick and don't belong here)

    If you think you're going to kill ANY serious opponents with 7-8k novas(resilience?), you're not playing arena at my level. And if you think you'll be winning games by thunderstorm, nova, thunderstorm, nova - you're wrong. If it's tricky to kill targets with ~42k instant damage due to player reaction times, I don't think 8k will be a problem for their healers. And btw, see that 1.5sec GCD, that means you won't be doing anything else. All nova will be good for is a finishing move, or aoe only if healers are dead.

    And know what? Fok WAS doing 10k every 3 seconds(AR+trinket), except this damage came from 1 rogue, (< 4 shamans). Comparative analysis?

    PS, I'm a biochemist in med school.

    Quote Originally Posted by Never Ending Pew Pew View Post
    FOK:
    30% reduction (nerfed) -No longer highest AOE DMG....
    AOE MS -still true if the poison actually gets applied...but still requires proper pvp Hit cap to achiev
    AOE POISON -same as above
    AOE SPELL INTERRUPT - stop crying its been nerfed as well... no more interrupt
    Welcome to the discussion. We're talking about pre-3.2.2
    Last edited by asonimie : 10-03-2009 at 01:34 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by asonimie View Post
    I think from an arena standpoint, a high rated one (my one brain cell got me there, wow you're a dick and don't belong here)

    If you think you're going to kill ANY serious opponents with 7-8k novas(resilience?), you're not playing arena at my level. And if you think you'll be winning games by thunderstorm, nova, thunderstorm, nova - you're wrong. If it's tricky to kill targets with ~42k instant damage due to player reaction times, I don't think 8k will be a problem for their healers. And btw, see that 1.5sec GCD, that means you won't be doing anything else. All nova will be good for is a finishing move, or aoe only if healers are dead.

    And know what? Fok WAS doing 10k every 3 seconds(AR+trinket), except this damage came from 1 rogue, (< 4 shamans). Comparative analysis?

    PS, I'm a biochemist in med school.





    Welcome to the discussion. We're talking about pre-3.2.2
    Im fully with asonimie on this one.

    @ Naysayer: Dont take stuff so personal, this is a forum and are meant to let people have a place to show their opinnion. Not calling eachother tasteless names and stuff.
    The least thing i want to see is d-b.com turning into a flame forum like blizz forums.

    Leave it

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    Quote Originally Posted by asonimie View Post

    And know what? Fok WAS doing 10k every 3 seconds(AR+trinket), except this damage came from 1 rogue, (< 4 shamans). Comparative analysis?

    PS, I'm a biochemist in med school.



    Welcome to the discussion. We're talking about pre-3.2.2
    LOL yes it was totally OP pre nerf, the only reason I posted my comment is since the nerf has already happened bringing up the fact that FOK is OP is pointless now... granted if you blow all cool downs with every buff possible and procs with it, ive managed to pull 7-8k dps post nerf but thats raid buffed with a crap ton of mobs.... IMO I highly doubt you will see numbers close to that in arenas anymore...

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