3.3

[5fingersofdoom]

I'm skeptical about this change.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is OP at first then gets nerfed back gradually as the QQ levels increase.
So we end up losing Stun, and getting a Totem that can gradually be reduced in effectiveness.
I'd be happy if Blizz got their caps on and let us Glyph for stun at least.
Not to mention how this screws over Enhancement against rogues.

[Never Ending Pew Pew]

Not thinking before talking is lame.

FOK:
Highest aoe DMG
AOE MS
AOE POISON
AOE SPELL INTERRUPT

Nova:
Aoe dmg.

Thats why.

FOK:
30% reduction (nerfed) -No longer highest AOE DMG....
AOE MS -still true if the poison actually gets applied...but still requires proper pvp Hit cap to achiev
AOE POISON -same as above
AOE SPELL INTERRUPT - stop crying its been nerfed as well... no more interrupt

[Fat Tire]

Just a wild guess here, but I think a few posters in this thread have rogues and are a little butthurt.

[asonimie]

Before your only brain cell overheats, see if it can imagine fighting something that aoe's an average of 10k damage every 3 seconds while being able to round robin thunderstorm x4to5. Melee will be a joke for shaman boxers.

They are essentially giving shaman the power of having Arcane Explosion and Blast Wave together. We're not squishy like fire/acane mages, and we can also heal.

Almost OP as you are bias. Almost.

Buuuuuut you're ok with that. NERF FOK THOUGH or you'll quit? roflmao...

I think from an arena standpoint, a high rated one (my one brain cell got me there, wow you're a dick and don't belong here)

If you think you're going to kill ANY serious opponents with 7-8k novas(resilience?), you're not playing arena at my level. And if you think you'll be winning games by thunderstorm, nova, thunderstorm, nova - you're wrong. If it's tricky to kill targets with ~42k instant damage due to player reaction times, I don't think 8k will be a problem for their healers. And btw, see that 1.5sec GCD, that means you won't be doing anything else. All nova will be good for is a finishing move, or aoe only if healers are dead.

And know what? Fok WAS doing 10k every 3 seconds(AR+trinket), except this damage came from 1 rogue, (< 4 shamans). Comparative analysis?

PS, I'm a biochemist in med school.

FOK:
30% reduction (nerfed) -No longer highest AOE DMG....
AOE MS -still true if the poison actually gets applied...but still requires proper pvp Hit cap to achiev
AOE POISON -same as above
AOE SPELL INTERRUPT - stop crying its been nerfed as well... no more interrupt

Welcome to the discussion. We're talking about pre-3.2.2

[Never Ending Pew Pew]

Just a wild guess here, but I think a few posters in this thread have rogues and are a little butthurt.

LOL, yes I have some Rogues, and not butthurt at all. Just pointing out some corrections since it was nerfed. Honestly I am happy shamans are getting this neat spell, I think it might help some teams really push their way further... yes it sucks that you guys lose the stun but hell an AOE like that every 3 seconds (glyphed and talented of course) is going to be quite nice.

Ive been playing since beta... im used to the nerf bat...

[Fat Tire]

Maybe they do, maybe they don't, but there's no doubt there's a bunch of shaman groups in here who were butthurt about FOK rogues and would be A-Okay with being OP on their shaman.

I guess kids need time to learn how to be fair about things.

I am confused... Are you saying FOK in its previous form was not OP?

[Eloxy]

I think from an arena standpoint, a high rated one (my one brain cell got me there, wow you're a dick and don't belong here)

If you think you're going to kill ANY serious opponents with 7-8k novas(resilience?), you're not playing arena at my level. And if you think you'll be winning games by thunderstorm, nova, thunderstorm, nova - you're wrong. If it's tricky to kill targets with ~42k instant damage due to player reaction times, I don't think 8k will be a problem for their healers. And btw, see that 1.5sec GCD, that means you won't be doing anything else. All nova will be good for is a finishing move, or aoe only if healers are dead.

And know what? Fok WAS doing 10k every 3 seconds(AR+trinket), except this damage came from 1 rogue, (< 4 shamans). Comparative analysis?

PS, I'm a biochemist in med school.





Welcome to the discussion. We're talking about pre-3.2.2

Im fully with asonimie on this one.

@ Naysayer: Dont take stuff so personal, this is a forum and are meant to let people have a place to show their opinnion. Not calling eachother tasteless names and stuff.
The least thing i want to see is d-b.com turning into a flame forum like blizz forums.

Leave it

[Never Ending Pew Pew]

And know what? Fok WAS doing 10k every 3 seconds(AR+trinket), except this damage came from 1 rogue, (< 4 shamans). Comparative analysis?

PS, I'm a biochemist in med school.



Welcome to the discussion. We're talking about pre-3.2.2

LOL yes it was totally OP pre nerf, the only reason I posted my comment is since the nerf has already happened bringing up the fact that FOK is OP is pointless now... granted if you blow all cool downs with every buff possible and procs with it, ive managed to pull 7-8k dps post nerf but thats raid buffed with a crap ton of mobs.... IMO I highly doubt you will see numbers close to that in arenas anymore...

[asonimie]

LOL yes it was totally OP pre nerf, the only reason I posted my comment is since the nerf has already happened bringing up the fact that FOK is OP is pointless now... granted if you blow all cool downs with every buff possible and procs with it, ive managed to pull 7-8k dps post nerf but thats raid buffed with a crap ton of mobs.... IMO I highly doubt you will see numbers close to that in arenas anymore...

Correct there's no way. We tested numbers on my full pvp shamans after 3.2.2, and rogues were only hitting me for 500ish with FOK

[Anastasiya]

WOW

Wow

wow

i'm just amazed that there are people here that would turn things in to a flame fest over a bunch of nothing.

i'm shamed that i read this post at all.