Aion : all questing and no grind until level ...

[Mokoi]

Yes I'm sure the grind is always starting 2-5 level higher than my current level - as it was claimed to start at 16, then 19, then 21 and now 25... we'll see I guess but it's a nice tactic as obviously it will take a long time to disprove (the time it will take me to casually get to 50 ?... though hopefully naysayers will stop at some point and move on to bash some other game)

That or the other bullshit that ncsoft would have put significantly less quests on 1 faction than the other... right... according to aionarmory there are 469 normal Asmo quests 1-20 and 459 Elyos ones... hopefully that debunks another myth

http://www.aionarmory.com/search.asp...s=204=20;230=1
http://www.aionarmory.com/search.asp...s=204=20;230=2

I'm inclined to agree, to all the people shutting down discussion of Aion because of what they read or experienced on Beta servers needs to STFU until you play live and hit a plateau in quests YOURSELF with a record of what quests you skipped / hubs you didnt find. Then your opinions will carry some weight.

Also, Aion is NOT WoW and the game does not START at 50, there is tons to do before you max your characters level and that's half the fun. If you don't like Aion because you played it and have reasons, fine. Since US release is only one week in, I suggest that anyone telling us that Aion sucks clearly hasn't spent enough time playing.

[Rin]

It's all in perception though, Moorea. Surely you can understand that. Maybe Aion is not a grind to YOU. That's your view, no one will try and change it. Yes, there will be others that disagree with it, but does it impact YOUR game play? I'd hope not.

FYI - There is a current discussion about levels 20-24 and the confirmed facts (on current North American servers, as of last week), that you need to grind 1.xx million exp after doing quests in these levels. I believe that I linked/quoted that in our last discussion (the 2nd quote, not the first one that was illustrative of the beta servers, as you have mentioned). Perhaps your experience has been different because you've gained significant amounts of exp while grouping? Or, maybe Aion isn't a grind to you - and hopefully it will never be.

Again, what it comes down to is perception and the fact that many of us have been spoiled with WoW. As I've said before, Aion leveling is more like the original EQ leveling. That's how it feels to me, and that's how I would explain it to others that were going to try the game. Is leveling hard? No. Is it tedious? Not if you've played the original EQ or even AC. Would it be tedious if you're expecting a WoW type leveling experience? Probably.

It's a kickass game though, and we're not debating that, but I still don't think that we'll ever come to terms on the leveling curve in this game.

Best,

[Souca]

I'm inclined to agree, to all the people shutting down discussion of Aion because of what they read or experienced on Beta servers needs to STFU until you play live and hit a plateau in quests YOURSELF with a record of what quests you skipped / hubs you didnt find. Then your opinions will carry some weight.

Also, Aion is NOT WoW and the game does not START at 50, there is tons to do before you max your characters level and that's half the fun. If you don't like Aion because you played it and have reasons, fine. Since US release is only one week in, I suggest that anyone telling us that Aion sucks clearly hasn't spent enough time playing.

I played beta. Release *is* different than beta. I could tell by level three that they had added quests and changed the progression rate.

You can get into situations where you don't seem to have any quests, but thats not really the case. You have them, they are just at lower level areas you skipped or a hub you haven't visited, or chained off of a campaign quest you haven't finished.

As for the grinding starting with the Abyss levels; I can't comment as I haven't gotten past 25 yet. I haven't heard any complaints from guild mates, but that doesn't prove anything. I do know that instances and pvp start at 25, so it is possible that your ability to level solo and pve diminishes as your group and pvp opportunities increase. Once again, just conjecture.

- Souca -