Comparative analysis? HKN vs. GCP vs. ISB?

[zanthor]

It's a nice feature, but is it significantly different from the functionality you get from simple directory junctions?

Once configured it's 100% invisible. You can move your config from machine to machine without problems, doesn't require OS knowledge, etc.

That does sound good, but one thing that worries my though. What is the performance difference between a full-size window resized to for instance 800*600 and one where the window is configured to run at 800*600 in WoW? Also, my main windows is 1920 * 1200, so if I set up my user interface to look decent in that resolution, scaling it down to 800*600 (or something similarly small) will make it too small to actually see what is on the screen

There is a small performance h it to running all windows @ 1920x1200, but really if your machines running smoothly it's not likely to be a big difference. UI is totally irrelevant, the other windows swap so fast you'll give up trying to do anything on them since you can just make them full sized, and then do what you want and back...

As for the user friendlyness, I bought a trial subscription yesterday and I find it pretty confusing. There are no standard buttons in the program - it looks nothing like standard windows/mac windows, which makes it a lot less intuitive. The setup is confusing and while the wizard will get you running fast, in order to utilize 100% of the programs potential, you have to spend just as much time learning to use it as I did in my time with HKN. In comparison, HKN is kind of hard to setup if you're not into programming - but once it's learned it's actually easier to use that most other programmes which require you to browse about for functionality in windows menus with poor or no documentation.

Um, menus are standard on all GUi based OS's... Wizards menu, quick setup... 40 seconds later you can log in and kill shit.

I like the "fake" mouse pointers and the easier macro management, but I find ISBoxer / IS to be a bit user un-friendly and cluttered and not very intuitive compared to keyclone/HKN (I haven't tried GCP for more than 15 mins so I can't comment on that).

Because setting up FTL in KeyClone is so transparent... and I don't believe you are calling a SCRIPTING LANGUAGE more intuitive than ANY GUI.

Wow.

[Fuzzyboy]

Um, menus are standard on all GUi based OS's... Wizards menu, quick setup... 40 seconds later you can log in and kill shit

What are you talking about? Are you claiming that it's impossible to make a custom GUI on a GUI based OS? In that case I think you need to read up on your programming skills :-)

Because setting up FTL in KeyClone is so transparent... and I don't believe you are calling a SCRIPTING LANGUAGE more intuitive than ANY GUI.

Where did I write anything about FTL and Keyclone? And where did I say that a scripting language is intuitive? My point was simply that to set up HKN (which I assume is the scripting based program you're talking about), there's a pretty steep learning curve, especially if you wan't to use the program to it's full extent. With ISBoxer + toolkit it's easy to get up and running but if you want to do the advanced stuff, there seems to be as much of a learning curve as HKN - which is partially due to the interface.

I'm not bashing ISBoxer here, so don't take it too personal - I think $10 is a fair price for three months, but as far as I can tell, HKN just works better for me :-)

[zanthor]

And where did I say that a scripting language is intuitive? My point was simply that to set up HKN (which I assume is the scripting based program you're talking about), there's a pretty steep learning curve, especially if you wan't to use the program to it's full extent. With ISBoxer + toolkit it's easy to get up and running but if you want to do the advanced stuff, there seems to be as much of a learning curve as HKN - which is partially due to the interface.

I find ISBoxer / IS to be a bit user un-friendly and cluttered and not very intuitive compared to keyclone/HKN

Right there... HKN is a scripting language, and right there you said it's more intuitive than ISBoxer's GUI...

[Fuzzyboy]

Where did I write anything about FTL and Keyclone? And where did I say that a scripting language is intuitive? My point was simply that to set up HKN (which I assume is the scripting based program you're talking about), there's a pretty steep learning curve, especially if you wan't to use the program to it's full extent. With ISBoxer + toolkit it's easy to get up and running but if you want to do the advanced stuff, there seems to be as much of a learning curve as HKN - which is partially due to the interface.

I find ISBoxer / IS to be a bit user un-friendly and cluttered and not very intuitive compared to keyclone/HKN

Right there... HKN is a scripting language, and right there you said it's more intuitive than ISBoxer's GUI...

You're playing the too-literal game, but if you insist: The fact that A > B only says something about the relative sizes of A and B - and nothing about their absolute values. Or: The fact that I find HKN more intuitive than ISBoxer does not imply that either are overly intuitive - simply that one is more intuitive than the other. And yes, I find a scripting language more intuitive than ISBoxer, _when it comes to the advanced features_.