Macro Question

[Waddy]

Ok, I'm going to try and explain this best I can because even when I say it I get confused.

I'm Pyrostasis brother btw, we're currently running 1 pal and 4 sham setup on wow. Videos and SS's will follow, but anyways back to what I'm posting about.

This is the issue I'm having:

I'm trying to come up with a way to make all of my targeting macro's more efficient.

When I first started running the shamans, I play all 4 shamans btw, I basically made a macro for every spell on my hotbar. The heals, the damage, totems and all that.

As for what my problem is it deals with targeting someone to heal, then targeting someone to do damage. Basically I set up a f1-f6 setup to target all the toons and I made it universal throughout all the toons. f1-f5 targets all 5 toons in the group and f6 has all the toons target themselves.

Then I made every damage spell /assist my main shaman and then cast the appropriate spell. This worked just fine until I started to run into issues of my main shaman dying or getting feared or banished etc... So, I came to the forums and I looked through the macros and I've tried a few but none of them are working correctly for me.

I started with this macro for my assisting with the other 3 shamans:

/target [target=Ðaria, nodead] [target=Ðixx, nodead] [target=Ðuxx, nodead] [target=Ðexx, nodead] [target=Ðaxx, nodead]
/assist target
/cast [exists,harm,nodead] feuerball

I replaced the names with all of my toons starting with my main which is Tdkearth then my second Tdkfire, Tdkwind, Tdkwater. So, this worked fine until again I died well when I die I select Tdkfire's window and I pick a target and try to cast a spell and immediately all 3 toons try to assist my dead toon and I get Invalid Target error basically. If I jam the button and click my target over and over I can eventually make it work, but it's far from efficient.

Basically, if that doesn't make any sense what I want is a macro that will allow me to target my main unless he's dead and if he's dead to target my secondary - 3rd or 4th toon whichever I pick to be the new main assist.

Right now I've settled for making a different macro to target all 5 of my toons, a macro to assist my target and cast a spell on it and then my heals spells are not assist macros I just target whatever toon I want to heal and through keyclone I setup round robins and stuff, but it's extremely clunky and constantly having to retarget my main assist is geting annoying. If you know a macro that can help me please post!

Thanks guys!

[Boylston]

I've often wondered if a decent workaround to this problem is to essentially make 4 sets of macros and then use the hotkey bar switching to convert. Assume NO UI addons at the moment and the default keybind behavior.

The normal bar would be hard coded with macros to assist your primary "main". /assist "main";/cast stuff.... etc. The second bar would have all the same macro structure with just a different character name. One quick Shift-2 and now everyone is running off the new, different bar.

I don't love this approach for a variety of reasons, but it may be a robust workaround...

[PyrostasisTDK]

thats actually a pretty good setup, mgiht give that a shot.

Just not sure why the nodead boolean statement isnt working.

[PyrostasisTDK]

healing and targeting isnt really the issue untill the main dies.

Hes currently using the macro that does the whole target bob, nodead

Basically an if statement if the mains alive target and assist him, if not go to the next and next and next etc.

Problem is, the nodead boolean value isnt being accepted and the first part of the macro is running. So they assist a dead person. Thus the targetting gets completely screwed.

[Waddy]

Well, that and if I write the macro to /assist my target every time then when I target something and /assist it will then target my main again which causes an inconsistency in assisting.

What I need is for the macro to actually recognize that the main assist is dead and then assist the next character in the line. Otherwise my targeting is fine, I like me healing setup and my overall targeting setup is great.

[marvein]

healing and targeting isnt really the issue untill the main dies.

Hes currently using the macro that does the whole target bob, nodead

Basically an if statement if the mains alive target and assist him, if not go to the next and next and next etc.

Problem is, the nodead boolean value isnt being accepted and the first part of the macro is running. So they assist a dead person. Thus the targetting gets completely screwed.

So does anyone know why its not working or how to fix it? because I have the same issue and have since stopped caring for now and deleted all of those related macros. So basically when my main dies its often a wipe. This is acceptable for these low lvls but before I get heavy into instances it would be nice to figure this one out.

[maqz]

I use focus for CC (resheep without targetting) and possibly other uses in the future. With only three characters there's plenty of room in the macro for conditionals. I use the nodead conditinals like you. It works pretty well. Of course, there's no [feared] or [mind controlled] test, so using focus might be the best solution after all.

You say it works after a couple of times. It may be that there is some kind of delay before every toon finds out that your main is dead? You could try to minimize the assisting and always try first to cast on your current target. If that one is dead, only then start assisting.

[code:1]/target [harm,nodead] [target=Ðaria-target,harm,nodead] [target=Ðixx-target,harm,nodead] [target=Ðuxx-target,harm,nodead] [target=Ðexx-target,harm,nodead]
/cast feuerball[/code:1]

[Waddy]

OMG! Thank you Fursphere, I love you soooo much. That worked PERFECTLY!

[PyrostasisTDK]

I use focus for CC (resheep without targetting) and possibly other uses in the future. With only three characters there's plenty of room in the macro for conditionals. I use the nodead conditinals like you. It works pretty well. Of course, there's no [feared] or [mind controlled] test, so using focus might be the best solution after all.

You say it works after a couple of times. It may be that there is some kind of delay before every toon finds out that your main is dead? You could try to minimize the assisting and always try first to cast on your current target. If that one is dead, only then start assisting.

[code:1]/target [harm,nodead] [target=Ðaria-target,harm,nodead] [target=Ðixx-target,harm,nodead] [target=Ðuxx-target,harm,nodead] [target=Ðexx-target,harm,nodead]
/cast feuerball[/code:1]

We tried that magz it just didnt work in pvp after deaths for us for some reason, but focus is working perfectly.

[marvein]

O I C now.

You need to switch your entire system to a FOCUS based system, instead of a name or unitID based system. You need four keys (or 1 key with 4 modifiers) to set the FOCUS for all toons at the same time.

I just use F1 - F4.

F1 = /focus [target=bob]
F2 = /focus [target=bob2]

(same macro / same key on all four toons, so they all set the focus at the same time).

All of my toons use a macro for just about everything.

Lightning Bolt = /cast [target=focustarget] lightning bolt
etc...

If Bob dies (current focus / main), I just hit f2, and all toons switch thier FOCUS to Bob2 (per the example above). And this in turn automatically switches all macros to target the current "FOCUS" *living toon* Healing, same gig, although I use Party1 for the tank (and making him the party leader).

Forget the "nodead" nonsense, just move to a focus system, and roll with it.

ah ok that makes sense, most of my targetting stuff is focus based anyways, stupid me for not making this one focuses as well lol. There is no way to use the [nodead] modifier with /focus though is there?

because this macro taken from the sticky
[code:1]
MACRO 2 "new focus" Ability_Hunter_SniperShot
/clearfocus
/focus Pewpewss
/stopmacro [target=focus, exists, nodead]
/focus Pewpewwz
/stopmacro [target=focus, exists, nodead]
/focus Pewpewws
/stopmacro [target=focus, exists, nodead]
/focus Pewwpews
/stopmacro [target=focus, exists, nodead]
END
[/code:1]
does not work for me even after pressing it multiple times. Not to mention I cant put in all 5 chars because it far exceeds the 255char limit.

Right now I keep all my spellcasting seperate from my targetting/assisting macros in order to free up macro spaces.

so what I have is a macro that does:
/target focus
/assist target

and thats it, all spellcasts are simply identical keypresses using 1-5 and such to cast shocks or bolts, etc and nostromo for totems. etc. Saving my precious macro space for spell rotations for healing and totems.[/code]