Shaman PvP Gear, Enchants, and gemming

[Altsoba]

I'd like to know how you're dealing with this subject.

Gear:
Personnaly, I aim for sp and crit in terms of gear choice.

Gems:
Metagem - 21 crit rate + 3% increased crit damage
Blue Slots - +12sp +15 Stam
Yellow Slots - +12sp +10 crit rate
Red Slots - +23 sp
Colorless Slots - +23sp

Enchants:
Head - +29sp +20res (not sure the rep one is worth it)
Shoulder - +23sp +20 res (not sure if the 10k honor one worth it)
Back - +35 spell penetration
Chest - +10 all stats
Wrist - +40 stamina
Weapon - +63sp
Shield - +25 Int
Totem - Using Totem of electrifying wind
Hand - +28sp
Belt -
Legs - +50sp +30 Stam
Feet - +15 Stam Minor speed increase
Ring
Ring
Trinket - Titan-Forged Rune of Audacity
Trinket - Platinum Disks of Sorcery

Glyphs:
Lightning Bolt
Lava
Totem of Wrath

With this, in average, since all shaman aren't equally geared I have self buffed:
Spell - 2716
Crit - 23.26%
Haste - 144
Hit - 0
Resilience - 822
HP - 22120
Mana - 16116

I'd love to hear your comments as well as where you differ or agree with my options. As I'm changing gear, I really feel the urge to change from stamina to spell power everywhere I can.

Alea Jacta Est. Thank you for your contribution.

[heyaz]

Assuming this is for pvp:

1. What do you gem all that crit for? Your hardest hitting spell is a guaranteed crit, you have +5% crit from about the moment you hit combat, and elemental mastery gives you what is it now, 20 or 30% extra crit for 15 sec?

2. You need some hit. Aim for 6% with talents, 7% is even better, Too many blood elves and paladins will just barely cheat death because of their resistance,.

3. Haste is pointless in PVP, especially that little of a rating (144)

4. With only +35 spell penetration you are going to get some very weak hits against anyone with resistance at all (just about everyone in pvp). A 9k lava burst could become 4k. You want 95+ spell resistance these days.

All my gemming is going more towards spell power and spell penetration. I'm phasing out the stam gems once I passed 21k hp. With no crt gems at all (except the mta) you easily hit 22-23% once you hve furious and relentless stuff.

Also don't glyph lightning bolt in pvp, lightning bolt is not your kill shot and the 3 (or 4%??) boost isn't going to make any difference.

[Menthu]

Assuming this is for pvp:

1. What do you gem all that crit for? Your hardest hitting spell is a guaranteed crit, you have +5% crit from about the moment you hit combat, and elemental mastery gives you what is it now, 20 or 30% extra crit for 15 sec?

2. You need some hit. Aim for 6% with talents, 7% is even better, Too many blood elves and paladins will just barely cheat death because of their resistance,.

3. Haste is pointless in PVP, especially that little of a rating (144)

4. With only +35 spell penetration you are going to get some very weak hits against anyone with resistance at all (just about everyone in pvp). A 9k lava burst could become 4k. You want 95+ spell resistance these days.

All my gemming is going more towards spell power and spell penetration. I'm phasing out the stam gems once I passed 21k hp. With no crt gems at all (except the mta) you easily hit 22-23% once you hve furious and relentless stuff.

Also don't glyph lightning bolt in pvp, lightning bolt is not your kill shot and the 3 (or 4%??) boost isn't going to make any difference.

Do I need to say more?

Totally agree. Only thing I do different is that I still stack up stam at this moment (21.5k now). Spell penetration is indeed very important. Try to mix your gems with penetration and stamina.

...and replace the lightning bolt glyph with the shocking glyph.

Junglelove,

-Menthu

[heyaz]

Do I need to say more?

Totally agree. Only thing I do different is that I still stack up stam at this moment (21.5k now). Spell penetration is indeed very important. Try to mix your gems with penetration and stamina.

...and replace the lightning bolt glyph with the shocking glyph.

Junglelove,

-Menthu

in furious + relentless off pieces you should hit like 23k with no stam gems.. until then I'd stick around 21-21.5k maximum and the fact is if your gear isn't good enough to get higher HP than that without gemming, then it's also not good enough to kill geared players without those spell power gems.

Had to break 2400 spell power (at least on the main) before I could kill relaibly, and that was weeks ago. 2000-2100 would leave too many pople at like 5%. I think when people are geared out in relentless you wil need 2500+ sp unbuffed to get those kill shots. Then again chain lightning crits for like 7k so maybe not as much anymore.

Lot of teams will now have a fire reist aura paladin or fire resist totem down, so you need as much spell pen as you can get. If you can't purge druid buff, they could have over 200 fire rest. making it hard to get the kill shot. I see this in 3v3 constantly.

[asonimie]

Important stats to gem/enchant for? Spellpower, Spell Pen. That is all you need to think about.

To give you perspective, I have done mucho research and counseling on stat placement for fellow boxers, and it has worked out pretty well for everyone so far.

Keep in mind my team is full furious w/ relentless accessories, but here are my current stats (with pvp totems down):
Hp: 25.9k
Mana: 16.5k
Spellpower: 3052 (BASE!!)
Spell Pen: 129
Resil: 1050

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...?r=uther&n=taj

I gem for:
129 spellpen (3x stormy dragons eye)
Otherwise pure SpellPower gems, and 2x Spellpower/Resil gems.
There is ZERO stam / crit / haste in my gem choices.

[Altsoba]

Thank you so much everyone. When I did this post it was more to get insights from you rather than making a statement or a guide. I was almost sure that I wasn't going the good way, since I don't get that awesome results.

I'm more than willing to go the way you advice because it's well fundamented and it seems pretty clear and logical to me.

Asonimie, how do you have a +23sp enchant on a ring in a toon Engineer/jewelcrafter? Is it engineer stuff or is there some way around?

Thank you and please lets keep this topic open

[Kruschpakx4]

Haste - 144

: /

neck, 1 ring, cape with +hit, other pvp gear with crit (battlemaster with sp)

[daviddoran]

So i'm gearing my relatively new 80 shamans at the moment, leveled in AV, and now have 5 of the set pieces, 3 ele 2 resto for the extra resil. I'm still using the BoA staves now, what should I go for for a weapon and shield? Are my only options earned in PvE? I see a lot of shaman with the old badge shield, with the badges now, it seems like a waste to downgrade badges for that shield.

Do I have to pony up 5k gold for 5 BoE caster shields?

[asonimie]

Run some heroics and grab these from the badge vendor.

www.wowhead.com/?item=Protective Barricade of the Light

Great starter shields and should take you all the way to relentless shields at 1800.

[Altsoba]

I'm currently 150 Hit Rating (5.72%) and 115 Spell Penetration.

I attained that hit just with gems (+16 hit), Deadly ring of ascendacy (+38 hit) and the legs from WG (+64 hit).
It makes 8.72% hit with EP (talent).

So, I believe it's better to move to relentless dominance when upgrading (relentless ring to replace deadly included - minus 1.45% hit), or you have another opinion?