5+ Raiders, where are you?

[Multibocks]

Ive been in most raids (succesful) in WoW and I'm going to just agree to disagree here. DPSing as 4 shaman (or whatever class) is MUCH MUCH MUCH easier than doing two task. (Do I need another much in there?) Yes it gets a bit harder when there are raids with more movement, but seriously I dont see how you can put in the same class Healer+Tank or Healer+DPS or Tank + DPS vs DPS only. That's just silly.

[Meshuggenah]

As long as you have a way to avoid icehowl's charge and click on the portals on twins to change fast enough the only threat I can think of is the warrior bladestorming your group. For uld I could see some of the later bosses giving headaches.

Simple answer is - if it were easy as you're suggesting, everyone would be doing it.

[Meshuggenah]

Ive been in most raids (succesful) in WoW and I'm going to just agree to disagree here. DPSing as 4 shaman (or whatever class) is MUCH MUCH MUCH easier than doing two task. (Do I need another much in there?) Yes it gets a bit harder when there are raids with more movement, but seriously I dont see how you can put in the same class Healer+Tank or Healer+DPS or Tank + DPS vs DPS only. That's just silly.

I don't think anyone has said or even suggested that playing DPS rather than filling multiple roles is "easier". Infact I specifically stated at least once that I prefer not to mix roles in equal level content, because it IS too complex to manage.

And I'm not sure what you mean by "in the same class as". If someone manages to successfully box any raid, good for them. I don't see why it's necessary to ridicule other peoples' achievements.

[Meshuggenah]

Its not so much ridiculing as it is "poster/reader awareness". Every post that says "I multiboxed "X" raid" needs to be clarified because there is a significant difference between running all ranged vs. playing critical roles.

You ever agree to this fact yourself as you've stated previously. People get the wrong idea here all the time. There are many posts saying "XXX heroic is easy!" where its really not depending on your group makeup.

If you're refering to my comments in another thread recently, that's a misquote. I said if you heavily outgear a heroic, it is easy regardless of your class makeup, assuming that you have a tank, a healer and 3 DPS.

And the point is I HAVE multiboxed X raids. Your comment wasn't designed to increase awareness, it was a blatant attempt to lessen other my achievements in an effort to make your own seem more valid. A person genuinely interested in quantifying achievements wouldn't so frequently claim to be the leader of a "Multiboxing raiding guild" but neglect to mention that you haven't raided anything you don't severely outgear, and isn't 12 months old and almost 4 tiers ago (and then get extremely abusive and defensive when people question the content you're playing).

I don't think I've ever seen you comment in a thread unless it was to make some kind of criticism or disparaging remark, or boost your own self-esteem.

If you like playing a healer and a tank, then do it. Grats. It's up to you. Get over the superiority complex.

[Meshuggenah]

Welcome to wrong, population you.

You did exactly that in the last second-to-last thread you abused me in. If I hadn't questioned you, you wouldn't have made the distinction.

A lot of multiboxers have trouble getting past heroic level content. I posted here to give some advice to people on getting into PUG's and which raids to try first, not to polish my own e-peen. Being criticized for it and told "I'm not multiboxing raid content" by someone who hasn't even attempted Onyxia is fucking obnoxious.

[puppychow]

reality is that there isn't really any reason to multibox raids anymore, maybe my server is a special snowflake but there are dozens of pugs that 1-shot clear every week toc10/25 without issues. Whenever I'm bored I login to wow and I can find a toc/ony/voa25 pug within a few minutes and be done and out. Blizzard has indicated they are very happy with this model of normal raids being fairly easy, and heroic mode being for raid guilds and will continue it in ICC. I haven't stepped foot in naxx or ulduar in 2+ months and don't miss them at all.

I still activate my 5-box for stuff like brewfest and hallowed eve (and ZG, sethekk halls, etc), but its mostly just so I can do 5 mans by myself and get any mounts/pets/etc that drop. In fact if anything I view raids as simply an easy way to gear up my chars solo, so I can clear 5 mans even faster when boxing. Nothing stomps oculus or hos faster than 5 guys in full 232/245 gear

[Meshuggenah]

reality is that there isn't really any reason to multibox raids anymore

I know what you mean, but I do it more for the challenge.

Or I did, at least. I was never very interested in PvE until recently, and to my surprise I found myself actually having fun managing boxing raids. The first few times, at least. Once you get to the point where you're just doing it to get that 5th head for your ring, or that 5th dagger, it loses some of the appeal. After next patch I'll definitely be more focused on farming a furious set and PvPing more. But I suppose it's the same issue there. Once you get where you wanted to be, there's not much left to do.

You really like being wrong don't you?

Go search around, I made some posts about this exact subject.

"Fucking obnoxious" was the more at the core of the point I was trying to make. Your achievements are not made more significant by putting everyone around you down.

[Bollwerk]

Can't we all just get along?

[Niley]

Can't we all just get along?

but then what would i read at work?

[TheBigBB]

reality is that there isn't really any reason to multibox raids anymore, maybe my server is a special snowflake but there are dozens of pugs that 1-shot clear every week toc10/25 without issues. Whenever I'm bored I login to wow and I can find a toc/ony/voa25 pug within a few minutes and be done and out. Blizzard has indicated they are very happy with this model of normal raids being fairly easy, and heroic mode being for raid guilds and will continue it in ICC. I haven't stepped foot in naxx or ulduar in 2+ months and don't miss them at all.

I still activate my 5-box for stuff like brewfest and hallowed eve (and ZG, sethekk halls, etc), but its mostly just so I can do 5 mans by myself and get any mounts/pets/etc that drop. In fact if anything I view raids as simply an easy way to gear up my chars solo, so I can clear 5 mans even faster when boxing. Nothing stomps oculus or hos faster than 5 guys in full 232/245 gear

I don't want to start a fight, but I have trouble understanding why you're paying for more than one account if this is how you see multiboxing. I'm sure any of use could do PUGs and clear out the raids solo if we wanted to or found groups that fit our schedules.