Advice for the Aegwynn H 16-Boxer who just embarrased himself (and anyone who boxes AV)

[mrmcgee21]

First off-
You really aren't going to win often if your taking up more than 1/4rth of the team in AV, I don't care what strat you think would have worked.

And reguarding playing offense-
Playing defense is exactly what a boxer should do so the original posted is just flat out wrong, almost every AV I enter takes about 15-20 minutes on average and nets 2000-3000 honor and its a blast because I'm actually you know ... pvping against players and all, not killing guards and watching tower timers. It takes two or three good players to cap any node on the map, but it requires more than that to hold a strong defense which is why a boxer on offense is an epic waste of fire power.

[MarkHR]

First off-
You really aren't going to win often if your taking up more than 1/4rth of the team in AV, I don't care what strat you think would have worked...

I disagree. The guaranteed win teams I've been on usually have 10 or more on defence. A few rogues to recap FW towers and then other classes with aoe/fear/thunderstorm to disrupt tanks and healers. The alternative, at least in bloodlust-eu, is a 5-10min alliance zerg to drek that horde almost always loses.

[asonimie]

I disagree. The guaranteed win teams I've been on usually have 10 or more on defence. A few rogues to recap FW towers and then other classes with aoe/fear/thunderstorm to disrupt tanks and healers. The alternative, at least in bloodlust-eu, is a 5-10min alliance zerg to drek that horde almost always loses.

read more carefully. Thats not what Mcgee said.

[5fingersofdoom]

I play almost exclusively AV alliance and a turtle early on usually results in either a quick loss or a prolonged defeat,somtimes it doesn't but its rare on my BG.

AV IMO isn't meant to be some repetative grind,changing things up is fun which is what playing games is all about.

Frankly with that many shamans,learning to defend your group against zergs at first is much more important than rng,seeing as soon as the op4 learns your boxing they will pretty much chase you around AV looking to nuke your team,with half their Raid.

No embarassment for the 16 boxer at all.

[HTeam]

I've never understood the "AV is about honor/hour" crowd. If you're not playing to win in a battleground, then what are you playing? You're grinding out games against an active opponent so you can get gear to go up against a scripted one? (so you can get gear to go up against another scripted one...so you can...etc...)

To a whole lot of us, playing against other real players is the end game. At 16 players, this means playing AV or Isle. Isle is a lot more laggy for me and I prefer AV.

As for playing defense. I'm pulling about 85% wins on my 4x warlock team by playing defense. Compare this with my 35% wins with my solo priest. If I had a 16 man team, nobody would make it past ibgy at all, leaving the other 24 people on the team the paltry task of knocking off one tower and balinda. Of course, we all know that they went for Balinda first and then got wiped in the towers by the respawn at SHGY which they never took. Balinda is the only target without a timer, why must the horde go after it first?!

My personal strat would be to send half to galv, half to shgy. Kick them out of galv/recap with the southern 20, fan out the other 20 to take those two bunkers. The southern group can come up and finish off Balinda and defend the bottleneck at IWB. Four minutes after those first quick taps (because balinda was skipped IWB, SHB and SHGY were tapped quickly), two bunkers and balinda are down. Release the alliance and turn it into a race where the horde is 4 minutes ahead instead of 2 minutes behind.

Alternate personal strat is to take SHGY and SFGY and kick everyone out of the south while we summon Lok. This makes me happy.

Playing a Battleground is about winning. Arenas are about winning. Raids are about defeating the monster. It's not about gear and item level and the capacity to claim victory, it's about actually doing it.

[BobGnarly]

Yeah, I don't think you're the final authority on what constitutes the right way to play AV, sorry.

While I can sympathize with what you're saying, you come over a little strong. Sometimes it's fun to turtle it up, and while I don't usually do it intentionally because I know there are loads of people like you who just want to maximize honor, I don't feel anybody's an embarrassment because they do.

[Slats]

OP your a dick.

Also 16 accounts is a really odd number - are you sure it wasn't multiple 5 boxers?