Advice for the Aegwynn H 16-Boxer who just embarrased himself (and anyone who boxes AV)

[noir]

AV is about max honor per hour -- period, end of discussion. Do what you need to do to get this. Winning may or may not ensure this.

The last thing you want to do is force a turtle. It's like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Sure, you might win as H in a turtle, but you're significantly slowing down your honor gain.

40 minutes and you made just over 1K honor. The same as if you had lost in 15 minutes. Any AV that takes longer than 15-20 minutes is played wrong. SHGY should never be defended. FWGY should never be capped before RH. Anyone who does either has failed for the past five years of WoW.

With 16 characters, you've taken up almost half the team. That means you really need to be all O for any chance of winning. Stomp Belinda. Take the forward GYs and hold them till they cap. Your strat of hoping to trinket again and again to defend RH is a guaranteed loss, because while 16 guys are hearthing to take the flag back, H has zero chance of O. At the end of the game, every single A bunker was up, every single H tower was burnt to the ground.

I see 5-boxers in AV who follow this D strat and it fails every time. 5-man teams are best for taking GY's and towers. Cap, hold, burn, move onto the next. That's how you get the most honor per hour, and generally how you win.

[shaeman]

A bit over the top don't you think?

Embarrased himself? Embarrased every other multiboxer who does AV?

No not really. I don't consider someone elses actions who I've never met to be a reflection on me at all.

Did he cause the loss possibly - but is there no responsibility for the MAJORITY of people that were in AV not capping and holding a single bunker?

Were you in the same battleground as this by any chance ?

Is the core issue that you are upset that it took 40 minutes for you to get 1k honor, given that honor is as you stated the only reason you AV. (As an aside I do AV for fun, the honor is an added bonus).

[KvdM]

Don't you just hate those "let them win" people...

[Svpernova09]

Don't you just hate those "let them win" people...

Every time I see this, I want to cockpunch these people IRL.

[Rocky Rhode]

For me …it depends…

While leveling my team I was all about maximizing my honor/xp gain per run. Once the girls all hit 80 – my opinion of AV became slightly different. Some of the best times ever in AV was working my 5-box systematically through a group of horde, and slowly pushing them back to their spawn point…Then taking their graveyard.

Turtles need love too…

[Tasty]

Every time I see this, I want to cockpunch these people IRL.

Dunno why but I chuckled at that. I agree too

[mrmcgee21]

First off-
You really aren't going to win often if your taking up more than 1/4rth of the team in AV, I don't care what strat you think would have worked.

And reguarding playing offense-
Playing defense is exactly what a boxer should do so the original posted is just flat out wrong, almost every AV I enter takes about 15-20 minutes on average and nets 2000-3000 honor and its a blast because I'm actually you know ... pvping against players and all, not killing guards and watching tower timers. It takes two or three good players to cap any node on the map, but it requires more than that to hold a strong defense which is why a boxer on offense is an epic waste of fire power.

[Moorea]

I know one guy doing 10box who is an embarrassment for his faction (the one who peddles copy cat software)

[HPAVC]

Eh, a multi boxer or a multiple single boxers its really all the same. Not much you can do.

[Tasty]

AV is about max honor per hour -- period, end of discussion. Do what you need to do to get this. Winning may or may not ensure this.

The last thing you want to do is force a turtle. It's like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Sure, you might win as H in a turtle, but you're significantly slowing down your honor gain.

40 minutes and you made just over 1K honor. The same as if you had lost in 15 minutes. Any AV that takes longer than 15-20 minutes is played wrong. SHGY should never be defended. FWGY should never be capped before RH. Anyone who does either has failed for the past five years of WoW.

With 16 characters, you've taken up almost half the team. That means you really need to be all O for any chance of winning. Stomp Belinda. Take the forward GYs and hold them till they cap. Your strat of hoping to trinket again and again to defend RH is a guaranteed loss, because while 16 guys are hearthing to take the flag back, H has zero chance of O. At the end of the game, every single A bunker was up, every single H tower was burnt to the ground.

I see 5-boxers in AV who follow this D strat and it fails every time. 5-man teams are best for taking GY's and towers. Cap, hold, burn, move onto the next. That's how you get the most honor per hour, and generally how you win.

So how exactly did he embarrass himself?