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  1. #11

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    ok so my tank needs a minimum of 435 defence

    my casters need 158 hit (6%) for level 82 bosses

    Druid is maxed with balance of power and heroic presence Talent 6% HP 1%

    Shammy has HP 1% Elemental percision 3% (if i take IFF from druid + 3%) so maxed no hit needed or is 53 if no IFF

    Mage has 1% HP 3% percision so same as shammy capped with IFF or 53 hit if not.

    Hopefully i got that right
    Team 1 Pally 4 x shaman

    Team 2 Pally not sure of the rest yet

  2. #12

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    The Defense 'minimum' makes you uncrittable, the hit ratings make you 'never miss'. It's definitely not the minimum to enter Heroics.
    Just start with the easier ones (Like Nexus, UK) and see what you can and can't do.

    Sure it helps to have that stats, and it can make a big difference on the bigger bosses/harder heroics, but on the starter heroics not so much.

  3. #13

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    God I love this community. I was so bummed out last night after an embarrassing fail in UTK. Once I get some more gear I'll charge back in.
    Warfather + Scrub + Fumble + Bumble + Botch
    Ravenholdt - US

  4. #14

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalros View Post
    What I did in the beginning was just to target specific bosses that I knew were easier and farmed for gear, and just progressively worked up from there.

    I started with Drak'Tharon Keep, skipping Novos for a while. I soon graduated up to Gundrak and Utgarde Keep.

    The biggest thing I did to prepare though, was that once my team hit 80, I started PUG-ing groups with my Paladin to collect Emblems and Gear, and learn the strategies for the bosses, that way I had a leg up when I started running them with my own guys.
    Gundrak and Drak'Tharon are EASIER than UTK! NICE!

    So I'll probably run my team through the normal mode, get the hang of the dungeons flow there, and then take the tank in with a PUG.
    Warfather + Scrub + Fumble + Bumble + Botch
    Ravenholdt - US

  5. #15

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    Isn't resilience useless in instances now?
    "My dogs could roll heroics with how a lot of you play."
    - Fursphere 2010




  6. #16

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedreameater View Post
    Gundrak and Drak'Tharon are EASIER than UTK! NICE!

    So I'll probably run my team through the normal mode, get the hang of the dungeons flow there, and then take the tank in with a PUG.
    Honestly, I wouldn't bother. First time I did Gundrak was on normal. Read the strats here and just remember you need a way to quickly remove poisons.
    "My dogs could roll heroics with how a lot of you play."
    - Fursphere 2010




  7. #17

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    My team is still only 64 for my highest group, so I haven't done and heroics, but I would have thought VH would be the easiest just based on encounter mechanics!

    I'm still having issues killing the flying guy in Helfire Ramparts
    Stormreaver, Horde

    1 Druid - 4 Shamans
    1 Pally - 4 locks

  8. #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aethon View Post
    My team is still only 64 for my highest group, so I haven't done and heroics, but I would have thought VH would be the easiest just based on encounter mechanics!

    I'm still having issues killing the flying guy in Helfire Ramparts
    VH doesn't give you time to recover very well after the poop starts hitting the fan. And if you die you start over.

    And to the OP, I have a pally team and with that I found I can clear UK and Nexus. The easiest boss I have fought is the first one in UP.

    Your defense at 435 is very low. The target for heroics is 535 I believe.
    Dana Pain
    Legion of Boom
    Kil'Jaeden



  9. #19

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    VH is a bitch while learning boss fights as you have to clear trash everytime you wipe. Problem with UTK is that the first boss is the hardest. I definatley found CoS and gundrak easiest when undergeared - drak was only difficult until I figured out how not to die to the trash at the start.

  10. #20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whowantstoknow View Post
    VH is a bitch while learning boss fights as you have to clear trash everytime you wipe. Problem with UTK is that the first boss is the hardest. I definatley found CoS and gundrak easiest when undergeared - drak was only difficult until I figured out how not to die to the trash at the start.

    Call me slow, but this is the cockblock of DTK for me, it's just a huge PITA. Whats the secret?

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