Almost ready to start heroics some ?'s

[Coltimar]

Gundrak and Drak'Tharon are EASIER than UTK! NICE!

So I'll probably run my team through the normal mode, get the hang of the dungeons flow there, and then take the tank in with a PUG.

Honestly, I wouldn't bother. First time I did Gundrak was on normal. Read the strats here and just remember you need a way to quickly remove poisons.

[thedreameater]

Honestly, I wouldn't bother. First time I did Gundrak was on normal. Read the strats here and just remember you need a way to quickly remove poisons.

EDIT: I was confused by what you meant, I'll read strats and hope for the best.

Thanks!

[Greythan]

YOu are way overgeared for being a heroic-starter. You just need to work out the tactics.

I remember longing for my tank to be at 20k hp.

You can see in my sig how my conquered heroic path is going..... much faster now that I'm way overgeared (pally is 35k HP buffed). As was stated, heroics are brute forceable in many cases these days.

[Klesh]

535 defense is enough for heroics, more doesn't hurt though, you still get nice avoidance from defense rating.

As for hit rating, check out wowwikis spell hit page, its pretty nice and detailed (heroics = mob level 82 hit rating requirements).

[Firmpete]

The Defense 'minimum' makes you uncrittable, the hit ratings make you 'never miss'. It's definitely not the minimum to enter Heroics.
Just start with the easier ones (Like Nexus, UK) and see what you can and can't do.

Sure it helps to have that stats, and it can make a big difference on the bigger bosses/harder heroics, but on the starter heroics not so much.

[thedreameater]

God I love this community. I was so bummed out last night after an embarrassing fail in UTK. Once I get some more gear I'll charge back in.

[Coltimar]

Isn't resilience useless in instances now?

[Aethon]

My team is still only 64 for my highest group, so I haven't done and heroics, but I would have thought VH would be the easiest just based on encounter mechanics!

I'm still having issues killing the flying guy in Helfire Ramparts

[blast3r]

My team is still only 64 for my highest group, so I haven't done and heroics, but I would have thought VH would be the easiest just based on encounter mechanics!

I'm still having issues killing the flying guy in Helfire Ramparts

VH doesn't give you time to recover very well after the poop starts hitting the fan. And if you die you start over.

And to the OP, I have a pally team and with that I found I can clear UK and Nexus. The easiest boss I have fought is the first one in UP.

Your defense at 435 is very low. The target for heroics is 535 I believe.

[Whowantstoknow]

VH is a bitch while learning boss fights as you have to clear trash everytime you wipe. Problem with UTK is that the first boss is the hardest. I definatley found CoS and gundrak easiest when undergeared - drak was only difficult until I figured out how not to die to the trash at the start.