New Core i7 builds, but big freezing problem on main client! Pls help!

[Fizzler]

Fizzler, thank you for that link. It's quite a read; I will be tackling that first thing in the morning. I'm new to this whole symbolic linking thing and dont' really know much about LSE's. Let's see what i can figure out though

It is quite a read. What you want is thesymbolic link section and not the hardlink or junction.


It is a basic right click Pick Link Source and right click Drop as symbolic link.

[jak3676]

While I'd also recommend symlinking for performance reasons - not symlinking shouldn't have anything to do your BSOD issue. It's possible you corrupted something and then copied and pasted that corruption, but I'd still guess it's a memory thing.

Either you have a stick of RAM with an error, or possibly just something that needs to be taken out, blow the dust off and re-set it. I'd also recommend "memtest86" as someone said upscreen. Probably the simplist, cheapest option to make sure you don't have any issues there.

You can also run a "scandsk" on your harddrive to make sure you don't have any bad sectors. Defragging can't hurt either.

If your memory & hard drive test fine after several hours or testing, then I'd start with a fresh install of WoW. If that doesn't do it then I'd reload the OS - assuming the intermittant problem is worse than the solution. If you'd rather just deal with it for a while, that's fine too. I always hate recommending a reload when it may be just a minor nuciance problem, but that's often the only way to take care of some undiagnosed problems.

[rahven32]

When in doubt reformat almost always fixes the problem. As long as it's a software issue. It really sounds like a hardware issue to me though. Either in the bios, heat, or just a piece bad somewhere.

[Phanes]

First off let me apologize I did not read the whole thread so if this is a repeat...

Most I7 problems come from not using RAM that is listed as compatiable with the I7 itself. If you goto the intel website they will list the exact RAM down to the serial number of what you need to use.

Trust me when I say don't use an online matching tool.

Don't beleive what some mobo or firmware says.

Goto the intel site look up the specs on your processor and make sure your ram is on the intel approved list in the configuration they say it needs to be in. Even if it is serial number 21343-A and you have 21343-B this could cause problems. The I7 has no northbridge so it handles RAM without a controller. So if the RAM is not tested as compatiable by intel themselves there is no gurantee it will work.

Trust me when I say I have built about 200 I7s now for vairous clients and the number one issue is them wanting to put in some ram, even good stuff like Corsair etc, that is not on the intel list.

If your RAM is not on the actual intel list gotten from www.intel.com then get some that is it will probably solve your issues.

[Teejayv]

thank you for all the replies. Since the time that i've posted this, i've tried a couple things like disabling all addons, reducing all details to minimum, running a single WoW client (in this case, just the actual folder that i noticed did all the freezing), running Scandisk and just general computer usage. All of these yielded the same result: Crashing, freezing and sometimes even a weird sort of system hang where the screen goes all green and splotchy and locks up.

I have not tried Memtest yet, but will do so when i get home. I haven't tried a reformat and a reinstallation of either both Windows 7 or WoW. I will take that route if it goes to the extreme though. I also believe that it might be a corrupt file that might've been copied over to the folder, but i haven't seen any results to come to that conclusion as of yet.

I will check the intel site to see whether the Gskill ram that i purchased is indeed compatible with the motherboard. I would hope it is, because i don't think the return policy on open hardware is very forgiving on the store that i bought it at

I also figure that it might be the physical harddrive that i installed it to. I notice that compared to my e8400 system, it seems that there is a lot more disk searching and thrashing than compared to what it used to be like before. It often feels like it stutters even in unpopulated areas; not just Dalaran.

I guess i could always just move everything over to a new drive (as there are three physical drives in the system). Will let you guys know what happens with that as well.

[Teejayv]

so i checked out the MSI website (manufacturer for my mobo) and it seems the ram that i bought: specifically ddr pc12800 sticks are NOT compatible with my board. The same brand has a version (pc10666) that is compatible though.. so i think that is a huge cause for what is happening.

Although i do have the original receipts, i threw away the packaging for the RAM. i hope my computer will allow me to do an exchange, or at least charge me a minimal fee for returning it and then getting the proper new ram.

[moosejaw]

I wanted to add to Phanes post about ram. While I am not a system builder, I did use approved ram and had some anomalies. Using the "XMP memory profile" setting in the bios cured my issues and made a marked improvement in gaming performance.

I have corsair 1600 ram running at 1440 on a 180 base clock. Prime 95 (stress test) had problems at stock speeds and mild OC. Prime 95 is very happy now.

I am so pleased with this setup I am assembling another identical MB/cpu/ram (with less ram) to replace my media pc which went tats up last week.

[Hurricane]

Hi guys!

This is really interessting, i have had some problems with my new computer and wow aswell. It kind of feels like my new computer is slower and not as good as my old dual core computer.

my current spec is:

Intel® Desktop Board DX58SO
CORSAIR XMS3 4096M DDR3 Kit 1333MHz, 2x240 DIMM, DHX (TW3X4G1333C9DHX)
WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR GP 500GB SATA2 7200RPM 16MB (WD5000AACS)
INTEL CORE I7-920 2.66G 8M LGA1366 BOX (BX80601920)
MSI GF GTX 260 PCIE 896M GDDR3 2X DVI OC (N260GTX-T2D896-OC)

At the moment my i can only use 2Gb of memery, when i put in the other memeory my pc wont boot. Tried last night again after running with 2GB for the last 2-3 months.

On intel site it says:
What is the maximum frequency for DDR3 memory when used with Intel® Core™ i7-900 processor series?

These processors support DDR3 memory with a maximum frequency of 1066 MHz. If faster DDR3 memory is used (such as 1333 MHz or 1600 MHz), it will be down-clocked to operate at 1066 MHz.

I can not find any place on intel.com if my RAM is supported or not?

My motherboard support something like 3 chanel something something, so I think i want to try 3 x 2 GB of RAM and install win 7 64, what do you think?

[jak3676]

The support for RAM faster than 1066 is "unofficial", but it will run at whatever speed the motherboard tells it to run at. Just that Intel doesn't officially support more than that.

Are you still using a 32-bit OS? Have you tried swapping the two sticks around and using different memory slots? I'd say 90% of the "bad RAM" cases I've seen were solved by unsocketing and reseating the RAM stick a few times. But there are some bad ones that make it onto the market as well.

[Phanes]

I know the first I7 box I built I was using 1333 or something like that. The box froze up and crashed all the time. I went to the website and read up about RAM. I discovered that I7 is not officially supported past 1066. From that point on I only built I7 systems with 1066 RAM that was compatible with the MoBos I used and I have not had a problem since then.

Since the northbridge is out the I7 has no physical controller between it and the RAM so any mismatched RAM will cause problems.

Also Memtest and all that stuff would show the RAM being just fine. As soon as I dropped to 1066 stuff the problems would go away.

I am trying to find the link I used before that was on the intel site. It shows you the RAM that has been tested with the I7 right down to the serial number. Soon as I find the link I will post it.